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Dec 30, 2004 18:02 |  #1

I got a chance to photograph my friend's 2 month old baby, Michele, this Christmas.
I tried using my 420ex bounced, with some aluminum foil attached with an elastic to push some light forward (instead of a white index card).
I'm going to use this method much more often, as the foil gives subjects a really nice glint in the eye that really makes the images pop, imho.

Taken with the 20D, 50F1.8II

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Dec 30, 2004 18:13 |  #2

Hey Drisley....cute baby and good shots!! I really like the third one........they are easiest to shoot when they are sleeping!! I wish I could get that sharpness out of my 50f1.8 but I hardly ever use it anymore. After getting the 135f2, nothing seems as sharp and as nice to use.

oh yeah, keep drinking LOTS of tea so I can order that new camera in 2010!!:lol:




  
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Dec 30, 2004 18:27 |  #3

Thanks Schmoelzel.
Believe it or not, it was your posts of your daughter that inspired me for these.
I too like #3 the best. The lighting in #2 wasn't the best, and now that I look, it has a slight yellow cast.
I was using F2.8 and F4 for the above. I find that the 50F1.8II really shines at F2.2 and greater.

[Btw, I'm up to my ears in tea. I got some for xmas, but I'm so spoiled by your "real" tea, I dont know when/if I will drink that store bought stuff] ;)


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Dec 30, 2004 18:49 as a reply to  @ drisley's post |  #4

Man, that is awesome colour and clarity. I like the last one best of all - its a different angle to the norm. People have recommended that lens to me and now i know why. Nice trick with the foil too - how much are you hanging off the top (i assume its off the top)?

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Dec 30, 2004 18:51 as a reply to  @ ignite's post |  #5

All good... The third is fantastic! :D


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Dec 30, 2004 18:52 as a reply to  @ ignite's post |  #6

Great pictures. I like the second one the best.


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Dec 30, 2004 19:48 |  #7

All are very sharp with great color. I need to use that lens more.


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Dec 30, 2004 19:51 |  #8

Thanks guys :)
I used the "foil" trick on most of my xmas shots last week, and wow, what a difference it makes.
That little glint really does make the image pop.

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Dec 30, 2004 19:55 |  #9

BTW, have a look at this large, 1024x768 picture (external link) of #1.
I love the detail in the eye.
Here is a full size crop of the eye (external link).


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Dec 30, 2004 20:23 |  #10

....nice shots! I have a question; why did you decide to use such high ISO settings for these shots? Since you were using flash and the background seems unimportant anyway, I would have used a lower ISO, wide open apert......just curious what made you decide to shoot ISO800 & 1600.

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Dec 30, 2004 20:33 |  #11

I like to get an exposure that is as close to optimum as possible without considering the flash.
Then I use the bounced light as a fill. This gives more natural lighting, uses less flash power and lowers flash recycle time.
Plus, as you can see from the above examples (including the large picture links I just posted), ISO800 and ISO1600 are virtually noise free, so there is no reason not to use them.


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Dec 30, 2004 20:49 |  #12

I don't know, I see some noise in those images. Its certainly not anything that I would call unacceptable, in fact, its amazing for ISO1600, but there is some noise. I agree about the natural lighting though. However, bouncing it like you did shouldn't make for too harsh of a light. You're right, using available light is preferred though. I guess its a toss-up either way... ISO w/ digital is really just amplification of light that hits the photosites....so there is bound to be some noise and/or softening w/in-camera noise reduction. Anyway, I was just curious as I probably would have gone about it with a lower ISO and more bounced flash... you got great results though, nice work!

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Dec 30, 2004 21:24 |  #13

Great Photos! I take alot of my grandchildren and look forward to using your technique to improve my photos. In fact, I'll start on New Years Eve!


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Dec 31, 2004 00:00 |  #14

Thanks for the positive comments! :D

DSZE, you see noise on that?! :shock:
You must have amazing vision man! :lol:
I can't even see noise on that image at 50%, and barely at 100%, and that is on a very good 19" flat crt.
But, even if there is a little grain, that isn't a bad thing at all. When printed at 8x10, the image is very very clean. I would take a little noise to get the lighting I like any day.
Because the ceiling was rather high, and I was rather low (the baby was on the bed) I didnt want to rely on the flash to light the scene. I'm sure using a lower ISO would produce an equally nice picture, but I have the mindset to get as close to a proper exposure without including the flash. And since the 20D produces such low noise at all ISO's, I like to use all the features of the camera as much as possible.


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Dec 31, 2004 02:49 as a reply to  @ drisley's post |  #15

Great shots as usual. I see no noise at all in the pics. You just have a great knack for getting great high iso shots.


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