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Anyone think we'll see the new 50D at Photokina 2008 (Sept. 23-28)?

Current 40D pricing seems pretty low at the moment. Less than a $50 difference if you buy the 40D kit & sell the 28-135IS when compared to the 450D/XSi body.

Jun 29, 2008 17:00

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Very unlikely since it would break the ~18 month release cycle they had since the 10d.

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John_TX wrote in post #5816216external link
Current 40D pricing seems pretty low at the moment. Less than a $50 difference if you buy the 40D kit & sell the 28-135IS when compared to the 450D/XSi body.

Hardly a fair comparison though. You need to compare like with like to see the true difference in price. Either take both as kits and sell the lens, or both as body only. Making the comparison you did makes the two seem much closer in price than they really are.

I just checked the body only prices in the UK, at my regular supplier, and the 40D is £607 with the 450D only £430, a whopping £177 difference (about $350).

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Bodies to bodies, your still only looking at a $171 USD difference ($892 vs $721). That's a pretty small difference IMHO, especially seeing as they're completely different lines.

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Given Canon's current innovation, as more and more lines are being introduced, the differences between them gets compressed... that is, until they can come out with something innovative to widen the gap without feature crippling, cuz competitions would the gap in product line to their advantage and gain market share.

We might be looking at the Eeepc of digital cam soon or has it already happened with the 1000D, and look at the development of Eeepc, they are catching up with mainstream laptops in features.

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John_TX wrote in post #5817262external link
Bodies to bodies, your still only looking at a $171 USD difference ($892 vs $721). That's a pretty small difference IMHO, especially seeing as they're completely different lines.

I make that a 24% difference and the UK price more like 40%...that seems like quite a difference to me ;)

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Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Canon announce both a 50D and a replacement for the 5D. Nikon did it earlier this year with the D300 and D3. The price of the 40D has taken a tumble recently, and the introduction of models at the low end (Rebel XSi, XS) with arguably better sensors than the 40D would seem to put the 40D in a rather uncompetitive light. This becomes especially true when comparing it to the Nikon D300. I don't think Canon can stick to their past 18 month schedule - if they do, they're going to get their clocks cleaned by Nikon.

I would love to see a 50D with an upgraded sensor (improved low-light performance (especially above ISO 1600), improved image quality, a bump to 12 megapixels), improvements to focusing, and a higher-resolution LCD screen like the D300. Replacement of the direct-print button with something more useful would also be very nice.

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Feudal1 wrote in post #5819866external link
models at the low end (Rebel XSi, XS) with arguably better sensors than the 40D

What makes you think so? The XSI has more megapixels but the resolution increase is pretty negligible and the 40d beats it in High-ISO.

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sth_ wrote in post #5819948external link
What makes you think so? The XSI has more megapixels but the resolution increase is pretty negligible and the 40d beats it in High-ISO.

That's why I said arguably. :)

From the DPReview review of the XSi/450D (http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/canoneos450d​/page34.asp):external link

"The new sensor is superb, and from a resolution point of view puts the EOS 40D to shame without losing any of the high ISO performance that has been Canon's trump card for so long."

Don't get me wrong - I love my 40D. I just think that Canon needs to refresh the 40D in the near future, otherwise they risk losing more market share to Nikon.

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Feudal1 wrote in post #5820146external link
That's why I said arguably. :)

From the DPReview review of the XSi/450D (http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/canoneos450d​/page34.asp):external link

"The new sensor is superb, and from a resolution point of view puts the EOS 40D to shame without losing any of the high ISO performance that has been Canon's trump card for so long."

Don't get me wrong - I love my 40D. I just think that Canon needs to refresh the 40D in the near future, otherwise they risk losing more market share to Nikon.

2MP isn't quite a measure for "shame". With that point of view, you could use the same argument for the 1D Mark III. :/

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The shame is in the fact that the more consumer-grade XSi is capturing significantly more fine detail than the more semi-pro-grade 40D in RAW. It's not the megapixels, it's the detail being picked up.

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form wrote in post #5821625external link
The shame is in the fact that the more consumer-grade XSi is capturing significantly more fine detail than the more semi-pro-grade 40D in RAW. It's not the megapixels, it's the detail being picked up.

But at the cost to have moire as it´s reported .... the antialiasing filter over the sensor is "less agresive" ... but the results are there ... perhaps Canon has to change or improve this filter for the comming new cameras ....

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No moire is as bad as the moire I saw on the Nikon D70; that in itself was one of the image quality-related reasons why I chose the Rebel XT at that time. Other reasons were more megapixels and higher actual sensitivity, the latter especially needed when I started because I was shooting action sports.

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I thought the 40D topped out at 3200 ISO.

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