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Slow recycle time for 580 EX - any solution?

 
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Aug 26, 2008 22:58 |  #1

It seems like it takes this flash a couple of seconds to recycle fully and get ready for another shot - even with newly-charged AAs. Thus, I generally have quite a few "black" frames in every shoot. Is this a symptom of the flash? Is the 580 EXII much faster? I hate to be forced to use an external battery pack all the time. Help appreciated.




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Aug 26, 2008 23:38 |  #2

Yes, get a Canon CP-E4external link battery pack. They go in your pocket, on your belt, or perhaps on the bottom of your camera, and the flash recharges about 3 times faster. Just be careful not to burn your flash out.

580EX II isn't significantly faster.


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Aug 27, 2008 00:36 |  #3

Also, are these new batteries? They could need to be replaced. I had the same problem and a new set made a ton of difference. However, if you're shooting outdoors or at/near full power, not much you can do besides the CP-E4 or CP-E3 (can be found used) as Tim mentioned.


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Aug 27, 2008 00:41 |  #4

Looking at the specs of the flash on B&H, it's fast recycle time is 3 seconds with alkaline, with rechargeable batteries it may be a touch quicker but a couple, meaning two, seconds sounds about right.

You may want to consider a battery pack as already mentioned.


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Aug 27, 2008 00:45 |  #5

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Aug 27, 2008 01:52 |  #6

Raise the ISO. I use 400 or higher if fast recycle is needed.


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Aug 27, 2008 02:21 |  #7

I find the CP-E3 battery magazine a bit flimsey, the CP-E4 seems more sturdy. At $150 new I wouldn't bother buying one used.


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Aug 27, 2008 02:28 |  #8

JBP wrote in post #6186732external link
It seems like it takes this flash a couple of seconds to recycle fully and get ready for another shot - even with newly-charged AAs. Thus, I generally have quite a few "black" frames in every shoot. Is this a symptom of the flash? Is the 580 EXII much faster? I hate to be forced to use an external battery pack all the time. Help appreciated.

It's not a studio strobe. You're never going to be able to mash down on your shutter non-stop and get successful pops every time without frying the flash unit. Get a CP-E4, adjust your expectations, and slow down.


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Aug 27, 2008 07:20 as a reply to cdifoto's post |  #9

What power is the flash firing? Unfortunately, the flash power used when in E-TTL mode isn't stored anywhere (to my knowledge at least) so it's hard to go back in time and see what's going on. Perhaps switch the flash to manual mode, fire a couple off at 1/1 and see what kind of recycle times you get. Then 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, etc.....

Like someone said, you can use half the power by upping the ISO one stop so if you're alway shooting at 100, go to 200 (or open up the aperture a stop).

My 580EXII with Eneloops recycles plenty fast for me. I don't time it, but I can always snap off a couple of shots in the time it would take my A510 P&S to focus for ONE shot (now that's a slow recycling flash, about 10 seconds!)




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Aug 27, 2008 13:11 |  #10

Thanks so much everyone. Very helpful!




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