POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List - Page 9

dbump · 23rd of November 2010 (Tue)

Sounds reasonable, but I might reword it to exclude video too:

"4. Post-Processing -- do whatever you like and the host will decide if it works, but the image must be a single frame, still image"

grandadraymond · 11th of December 2010 (Sat)

Ive noticed that some of the photos entered for the challenge have had the exif data taken out, is this really fair, they could have been taken with any camera, can it not be made a rule that the exif must be intact, just a thought for fairness

teekay · 11th of December 2010 (Sat)

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandadraymond

Ive noticed that some of the photos entered for the challenge have had the exif data taken out, is this really fair....

EXIF info is usually lost when processing, not removed deliberately by the photographer.

For example, if I shoot in RAW, convert using Breezebrowser, save as a TIF, edit, then convert to JPEG for posting, the EXIF info always disappears somewhere along the way. I think we just have to trust people to be honest here.

grandadraymond · 11th of December 2010 (Sat)

Quote:

Originally Posted by teekay

EXIF info is usually lost when processing, not removed deliberately by the photographer.

For example, if I shoot in RAW, convert using Breezebrowser, save as a TIF, edit, then convert to JPEG for posting, the EXIF info always disappears somewhere along the way. I think we just have to trust people to be honest here.

Ah right i never lose mine though surely its easy enough to keep the exif intact, theres only so many people you can trust

teekay · 1st of July 2012 (Sun)

I suggest that once again it's time to change the size rule for the G-series challenges.

In the beginning it was "640 pixels exactly on the longest side". Then, as cameras and monitors improved, it was upped to 800 pixels, where it has been for some time.

Now, as gear has continued to evolve, I suggest the rule be changed and relaxed a bit to read "Images must be 800 to 1024 pixels on the longest side".

Comments?

Maureen Souza · 1st of July 2012 (Sun)

I agree, teekay. The only issue I have is sometimes when I want to post a photo that size, it dimishes the posting quality.

Any other feedback?

BobsYourUncle · 2nd of July 2012 (Mon)

Well, I shoot all pics at max resolution and superfine. Storage is so cheap I don't have to shoot small to get a lot on the card. I think it is better to get the best quality pic available when shooting and if it needs to be reduced in size, then it is so easy to do it after.
But you cannot increase the size and quality after a photo is taken. Size, yes, but not quality.

I have to shrink every picture I post to make it fit to the rules.

My opinion is that posting quality is a non issue.

I agree with teekay that 1024 on the longest would be a long overdue step up improvement.

Not everyone has a huge pile of modern computer equipment like some of us do, but the direction we are all heading is for bigger better faster. My home computer monitor is 24". Next one will be bigger!

I think 800 is as ancient as 640 was years ago.

Even my laptop runs at 1280 X 800. (widescreen)

Michael Wells · 2nd of July 2012 (Mon)

I also think this would be a good change...1024 is allowed on other threads as a posting size, why not here?

Mike

Raven · 3rd of July 2012 (Tue)

I concur. Just to be clear, are we looking to allow a range of between 800 and 1024 on the longest side, not that the longest side must be 1024?
Looks like we have five in agreement. Do we try it out for this week's contest or remain with 800 until we have more input? For this week, I would need to know asap as I need to post the new theme this morning sometime.

JimAskew · 3rd of July 2012 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by teekay

I suggest that once again it's time to change the size rule for the G-series challenges.

In the beginning it was "640 pixels exactly on the longest side". Then, as cameras and monitors improved, it was upped to 800 pixels, where it has been for some time.

Now, as gear has continued to evolve, I suggest the rule be changed and relaxed a bit to read "Images must be 800 to 1024 pixels on the longest side".

Comments?

Teekay...I totally agree! The G-XX & its cousins have evolved to higher resolution and we should allow for that in our contest rules.

Kevan · 3rd of July 2012 (Tue)

+1 Let's be consistent with the 1024 norm.

mrshobden · 3rd of July 2012 (Tue)

Yeah...I'm for changing the size to 1024

teekay · 3rd of July 2012 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven

I concur. Just to be clear, are we looking to allow a range of between 800 and 1024 on the longest side, not that the longest side must be 1024?
Looks like we have five in agreement. Do we try it out for this week's contest or remain with 800 until we have more input? For this week, I would need to know asap as I need to post the new theme this morning sometime.

I suggest that the "exactly" rule is not needed, and to make the new rule crystal clear it should be "...must be no smaller than 800 and no longer than 1024 pixels on the longest side".

I think you should should use this on the current challenge, Raven, and highlight it somehow to show it has changed.

BobsYourUncle · 3rd of July 2012 (Tue)

I think we need to wait for a confirmation from a mod before we start posting bigger pics

teekay · 3rd of July 2012 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobsYourUncle

I think we need to wait for a confirmation from a mod before we start posting bigger pics

Mods don't set the rules for challenges - it's by consensus - but in any case Maureen Souza (a mod) has already given this change a thumbs-up (see her post above). So far everyone is on board with this so I suggest it's a go!

23rd of November 2010 (Tue)	#121
dbump Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 752 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List Sounds reasonable, but I might reword it to exclude video too: "4. Post-Processing -- do whatever you like and the host will decide if it works, but the image must be a single frame, still image" __________________ 7D, G10, 17-55 f/2.8 IS, 70-200 f/2.8 IS, 100 Macro, 50 f/1.4, 430EX II There are no wrong notes --Thelonious Monk

11th of December 2010 (Sat)	#122
grandadraymond Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lancashire UK Posts: 1,946 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List Ive noticed that some of the photos entered for the challenge have had the exif data taken out, is this really fair, they could have been taken with any camera, can it not be made a rule that the exif must be intact, just a thought for fairness __________________ Canon 40D Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM L IS macro , Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM

1st of July 2012 (Sun)	#125
teekay Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1,379	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List I suggest that once again it's time to change the size rule for the G-series challenges. In the beginning it was "640 pixels exactly on the longest side". Then, as cameras and monitors improved, it was upped to 800 pixels, where it has been for some time. Now, as gear has continued to evolve, I suggest the rule be changed and relaxed a bit to read "Images must be 800 to 1024 pixels on the longest side". Comments?

1st of July 2012 (Sun)	#126
Maureen Souza Ms. Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central California Posts: 29,001 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List I agree, teekay. The only issue I have is sometimes when I want to post a photo that size, it dimishes the posting quality. Any other feedback? __________________ Life is hard...but I just take it one photograph at a time. 5DmkIII 7D Canon Lenses: 50/1.4, 85/1.2 135/2.0, 300/f4, 24-70! Pro1

2nd of July 2012 (Mon)	#127
BobsYourUncle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Surrey BC Canada Posts: 1,445 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List Well, I shoot all pics at max resolution and superfine. Storage is so cheap I don't have to shoot small to get a lot on the card. I think it is better to get the best quality pic available when shooting and if it needs to be reduced in size, then it is so easy to do it after. But you cannot increase the size and quality after a photo is taken. Size, yes, but not quality. I have to shrink every picture I post to make it fit to the rules. My opinion is that posting quality is a non issue. I agree with teekay that 1024 on the longest would be a long overdue step up improvement. Not everyone has a huge pile of modern computer equipment like some of us do, but the direction we are all heading is for bigger better faster. My home computer monitor is 24". Next one will be bigger! I think 800 is as ancient as 640 was years ago. Even my laptop runs at 1280 X 800. (widescreen) __________________ Set Goals!! If you aim at nothing, you will hit it every time! G1X .... and this other stuff G11 and a Pro 1 - & 380EX & 430EX G9 - DEAD (self destructed) I'll fix it one day! Last edited by BobsYourUncle : 2nd of July 2012 (Mon) at 00:10.

2nd of July 2012 (Mon)	#128
Michael Wells Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Storm Lake, Ia. Posts: 883 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List I also think this would be a good change...1024 is allowed on other threads as a posting size, why not here? Mike __________________ Michael Wells G9, 5D,Grip,70-200 2.8 IS,24-70,400 5.6

3rd of July 2012 (Tue)	#129
Raven Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle area, WA, USA Posts: 355	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List I concur. Just to be clear, are we looking to allow a range of between 800 and 1024 on the longest side, not that the longest side must be 1024? Looks like we have five in agreement. Do we try it out for this week's contest or remain with 800 until we have more input? For this week, I would need to know asap as I need to post the new theme this morning sometime. __________________ ________________________________ Jim ~ Canon EOS 7D \| Canon EOS 40D \| Canon PowerShot G12 \| Canon Powershot S90 \| Canon 17-40mm f/4 L \| Canon 24-105mm f/4 L IS \| Canon 70-200mm f/4 L IS \| Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro \| Canon 60mm f/2.8 Macro \| Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 \| Tokina 12-24mm f/4 \| Kenko 1.4x Pro300 DG TC Last edited by Raven : 3rd of July 2012 (Tue) at 03:31.

3rd of July 2012 (Tue)	#131
Kevan Goldmember Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chappaqua, NY Posts: 2,880 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List +1 Let's be consistent with the 1024 norm. __________________ kevan's lens

3rd of July 2012 (Tue)	#132
mrshobden Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 419 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List Yeah...I'm for changing the size to 1024 __________________ Linda Last edited by mrshobden : 3rd of July 2012 (Tue) at 09:07.

3rd of July 2012 (Tue)	#134
BobsYourUncle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Surrey BC Canada Posts: 1,445 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge Rules -- Master List I think we need to wait for a confirmation from a mod before we start posting bigger pics __________________ Set Goals!! If you aim at nothing, you will hit it every time! G1X .... and this other stuff G11 and a Pro 1 - & 380EX & 430EX G9 - DEAD (self destructed) I'll fix it one day!

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