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Old 28th of February 2005 (Mon)   #1
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Smile (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

I am in the market for a new ball head. I have been using the Bogen pistol grips on tripods to this point, and they have worked just wonderfully. The weight of the Canon 100-400 is causing some 'creep' and I have tightened up the adjuster to the point that it is time to look for something else. I would like a nice product but have limited access to 'real world' products. I am the only one I know that shoots anything other than 'snapshots.'

I see there are real ball heads that look like they would take the weight of my dream 3Kmm lens, lol, at some point. I need something that is fast to pan on bids on the wing and yet will setup fast for 'Rock Steady' shots as well.

What do you guys use and what would you recommend for me. I have a Bogen 3001, 3033 & monopod now, all with the pistol grip noted. Link attached: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ku=5558&is=REG

So please share what you like and what you don't, share your dream head with me and then something that a fellow can afford.
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Old 28th of February 2005 (Mon)   #2
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Default Re: New Ball Head . . .

If you are trying to shoot flying birds with a long lens, then you almost need a Wimberly head, or something close to that.

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Default Re: New Ball Head . . .

Robert has a point,. but the Wimberly (and the sort of similar Manfrotto) are huge "gimble mount" heads, and not much use for anything but huge lenses.

A good solid "normal" ballhead will solve a lot of your problems,. and many will in fact handle the weight of a huge tele prime,. although they won't be as fast to use as a Gimble mount.

Bogen/manfrottos larger ballheads will do the job, as will Acratech, Kirk, RRS, Arca, Graf, Giottos etc..

Check the Tripod "sticky" in "Talk about Photography" .. there is quite a little treasure trove there.
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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

I keep thinking about this, and I never get to the point of starting it, but I've been interested in constructing my own gimbal-type head for a long lens (a 100-400). Instead of making it "single-sided" like a Wimberly, I've thought of making it symmetrical with the lens hanging inverted. <sigh> But I would have to find some metal-working tools and a brake bar and some moderately hard alloy metal.

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Old 1st of March 2005 (Tue)   #5
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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

Bob,

Instead of making one you could buy a Bogen/Manfrotto 3421 Head for about $150.

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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

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Instead of making one you could buy a Bogen/Manfrotto 3421 Head for about $150.

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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

I've got a Bogen 490RC4 which is a monster ballhead with tension control. I like it a lot, despite it's size, and use it all the time with my 100-400. It's never failed, and does things almost perfectly. $170.

The Acratech Ultimate ballhead is pretty darn close to perfect I'd say, after having checked out IanD's. It's sweet. But another $100...plus an Arca-type QR plate... That's almost twice the price.

The Bogen gimbal, though inexpensive, is a monster that I just can't justify. It's just too big. If they came out with a model 1/2 or even 2/3 the size I might reconsider. It really is big.
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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

I just got the Markins M10 ballhead after a lot of research, and I can't rave about it enough. It is a fantastic head, rated by many as better than Arca-swiss, and with no delays in delivery (unlike the RRS heads with waits of 6 weeks or so). Cost was $310, and it is worth every penny.
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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

I hate to share my lack of knowledge & information on such . . . but I only know of RC2 Bogen plates. What are these RC4 and or RC5 systems. Are they better? I just looked up Scottes 490RC4 head and thus found he is using a different attachment plate as well. If I am up to a 'better' head perhaps I should look for a better attachment method(s) as well. Everything I own is now RC2 X three heads.

CDS thanks for the point to the sticky thread as well. You are the Best. It seems to be a brave new world out there for one as me tucked away in the back waters of the world, let alone high tech photo gear.

My thanks to all whom are able to help and or point me toward a system that will 'steady up' my much improved Canon gear.
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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

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Instead of making one you could buy a Bogen/Manfrotto 3421 Head for about $150.
Excellent. Send me the cash and I will get right on it.

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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

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Excellent. Send me the cash and I will get right on it.

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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

The RC4 plates are quite large - they seem like they're more for medium or large format. They're really big.

If I could have gotten the 490 with RC2 I'd be happier. (Not that I'm sad, but the RC4 is a little too big sometimes.)
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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

Bob,.. I don't have the cash,. so I think your Idea is better,. You build me one!
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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

check my review of bogen's grip action ball head: http://www.iphotoforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12527
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Default Re: (looking for a) New Ball Head . . .

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Bob,.. I don't have the cash,. so I think your Idea is better,. You build me one!
I could make it out of anodized black metal, or I could paint it L white and charge triple for it.

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