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Right then lol, Well I need advice on choosing a lens, I shoot Animal Photography mainly dogs as I snap them at dog shows, and my lense is rubbish its the bog standard canon lense that comes with the E0S 400D and I was thinking of upgrading my lense to the Sigma 70-300 mm f4.56 DG Macro Tele-zoom lens firstly because the Zoom is great and secondly its in my price budget at the moment.
Any advice or suggestions on a more practical lens for the photograpy I do would be Greatful Many Thanks Zina x |
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Welcome, Zina, you are in the best place to help you learn to use your camera. Admittedly the kit lens isn't much good but throwing money at the problem isn't usually the best solution. Perhaps share with us some of the images you have taken so far so we can help you some more.
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ok thank you I am getting used to forums too so i will try and show share some photo's I have snapped, the main problem is distance however due to the dogs being in a ring and my camera does not reach that far. lol
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The first photo is the usually close up photo's that people ask for and they are easy to take with the standard lens I have but the second photo of the darker bitch was taken at full zoom and it is rubbish its all blurred and just is not the quality id like it to be,
Any suggestions?? Thanks |
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Help anyone??...
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While the Sigma 70-300 is a good lens, it is just not fast enough for what you want to do with it. To shoot in an arena you will probably (depending on the lighting) at least at iso 1600 at f/2.8 and at a minimum of the length of the lens, meaning you if your lens is a 200mm you need to shoot at 1/250th. This isn't sports, but the dogs are still probably moving so even a faster shutter speed is recommended. All this leads to you needing a lens that is at least an f/2.8, and IS lens would be nice, but again if your subjects move the IS is just so much extra money spend and weight. I'm sure that using a flash would be a big no no at a dog show, but if you can use one you should balance it with the ambient light, you would still want an f/2.8 lens. Not knowing the distances you would be working at a 70-200mm f/2.8 might be fine, if you need longer than that a flash, even a 580 EX II might not have enough reach.
jack Last edited by AB8ND : 24th of November 2008 (Mon) at 11:47. |
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Ditto AB8ND
the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 is a fine lens, and very affordable compared to the canon version. (roughly half the cost) I definitely would stick with a f/2.8 lens, regardless of manufacturer. (other would disagree with me and say only buy canon, but some of us live in the real world and have to buy what we can afford)
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Thanks for the help, I was speaking to a Canine Photographer at a show yesterday and he recommended a 18-200mm lens would be the best what do you think
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Well your 18-200mm is a Nikon photographer talking (we don't talk to those guys here
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Thank you and omg your physcic lol, he is a nikon man! lmao, its only nikon guys that photograph our shows in wales see. So its a definate 70-200 lens. Thanks Guys! =]
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There are a few other options that could work for you. Canon makes a 200mm f/2.8 that would be good for your zoom shoots. But then when you need another lens for your closeups, requiring you to have to swap lenses. But I am sure you could pick one of these up used cheap since they are an older lens. Also the Canon 70-200 f/4 IS is a very sharp lens with IS (Image Stabilization) you just wont get the extra stop of light that the 2.8 will give you. But its smaller, lighter, and cheaper. Just some other thoughts for you. The 2.8's are the obvious best but most anything will be better then the kit lens.
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Yea i was just looking on a website now and i've found a 18-200mm lens from canon
http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mai...t.php?pid=4894 I'm just soo confused on what to get it seems like no one knows what is the best lens ideally for shooting distance on the dogs and close ups aswell. its so confusing.. :S |
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I stand corrected, Canon does have a 18-200, *New* Sorry, it is news to me. I just know a few Nikon guys that like there 18-200. Read the review on it though, the optics are not all that great but the range it covers may be worth the sacrafice in resolution. It's all about what you can afford. You can't go wrong on the 70-200 just so long as you aren't trying to get group shots in tight spaces. You can always step back if 70mm is to long. I love my 70-200 f/4 it hardly leaves my camera.
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hehe fair enough we all learn something new everyday , yea he said it would be practical but maybe he did not realise that I want to go into it professionally but at the end of the day i am still only a beginner, I guess I have a lot to learn about it all =/
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The Canon 18-200 looks like a good range, but it is still only 3.5 - 5.6 making it slow for indoor or low light work. Remember IS only works on your end, if the subject moves it doesn't help a bit.
Unfortunately for what you want to do there aren't many short cuts. jack |
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