where to host video's

tekkie · 23rd of November 2008 (Sun)

Anyone find a good site to host HD video's? smugmug is charging 150 bucks a year to do basic HD and I am not willing to pay that for the couple times I will use it

I sent them an email asking if they are planning to release any new plans because obviously there will be more people looking for this all the time now with the new camera abilities.

if anyone has any ideas let me know.

liquidstone · 23rd of November 2008 (Sun)

Vimeo rocks. Free at a max of 500 MB/week, you can upload up to 2GB/week + perks for a paid account.

http://www.vimeo.com

tekkie · 24th of November 2008 (Mon)

looks pretty good for 60 bucks a year

thanks for the link

aussieskier · 6th of December 2008 (Sat)

I'll definitely second Vimeo, loads better than Youtube!

osv · 7th of December 2008 (Sun)

youtube 720p blows vimeo 720p out of the water:
1)better codec: h.264 vs. flash vp6
2)you can embed youtube video, but it will have the logo on the vid
3)youtube is vbr, vimeo is cbr, which takes up more bandwidth
4)youtube records at ~25% higher bandwidth than vimeo does
5)vimeo can't do more than 24fps, youtube can do 30fps

osv · 7th of December 2008 (Sun)

compare it for yourself, both of these vids were encoded from the same source video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxua4ALWHms&fmt=22
http://www.vimeo.com/2431829

notice how the vimeo panning and zooming in stutters, while the youtube version isn't nearly as bad... that's because vimeo can't handle 30p, it drops frames to make it 24p.

i play this stuff back on a 24" crt, not an lcd; the youtube h.264 scaling is better than the vimeo flash scaling.

pr0digal · 9th of December 2008 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by osv

compare it for yourself, both of these vids were encoded from the same source video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxua4ALWHms&fmt=22Video
http://www.vimeo.com/2431829

notice how the vimeo panning and zooming in stutters, while the youtube version isn't nearly as bad... that's because vimeo can't handle 30p, it drops frames to make it 24p.

i play this stuff back on a 24" crt, not an lcd; the youtube h.264 scaling is better than the vimeo flash scaling.

From those two videos, the vimeo one looks far supreme as far as quality. Also, what if he decides to shoot in 24p? Then he will have the problem (when uploading to youtube) of it combining frames causing some very interesting problems. The youtube video does not look anywhere close to 720p, but the Vimeo one does

Sadly, there is little to do about the 24p/30p problem...at least it isn't trying to go from 24p to 30i..that would be kiler

osv · 10th of December 2008 (Wed)

the youtube clip has much better picture quality than the vimeo clip, the bitrate numbers prove it... and it doesn't have that horrible stuttering that you get with vimeo.

i believe that youtube will encode 25p if it's pal, but i've never tried to upload ntsc 25p.

darosk · 11th of December 2008 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by osv

youtube 720p blows

Uh-huh uh-huh.

BJWOK · 11th of December 2008 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by osv

the youtube clip has much better picture quality than the vimeo clip, the bitrate numbers prove it... and it doesn't have that horrible stuttering that you get with vimeo.

i believe that youtube will encode 25p if it's pal, but i've never tried to upload ntsc 25p.

champ, that youtube clip looks rubbish compared to vimeo one. forget the numbers, take a look at it!

hawkeye60 · 11th of December 2008 (Thu)

I agree the Youtube looks like crap compared to Vimeo. Regardless of the specs, I use Vimeo all the time, it simply looks better.

osv · 11th of December 2008 (Thu)

tell ya what... how about if i try and make this real simple, maybe give you still guys something that you can relate to? tell me which frame grab came from vimeo:

BJWOK · 12th of December 2008 (Fri)

the bottom one

danskim · 12th of December 2008 (Fri)

Your clip on YouTube doesn't have the link "watch in high quality" that other YouTube HD videos I've seen. And that's why it looks terrible I think.

osv · 12th of December 2008 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJWOK

the bottom one

nope

the one on top, the bad frame grab, is from the vimeo clip.

you can duplicate that for yourself by downloading the vimeo video, and grabbing the first frame of the video.

23rd of November 2008 (Sun)	#1
tekkie Goldmember Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Clarkston, MI Posts: 2,613 IMAGE EDITING OK	where to host video's Anyone find a good site to host HD video's? smugmug is charging 150 bucks a year to do basic HD and I am not willing to pay that for the couple times I will use it I sent them an email asking if they are planning to release any new plans because obviously there will be more people looking for this all the time now with the new camera abilities. if anyone has any ideas let me know. __________________ Canon 1DMKII, 7D, 5DMKII, 1D MKII Canon 500L, 100-400L, 70-200 2.8L, 17-40L, 24-105L, 24mm 2.8,50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, 135mm 2.8 SF, 100mm Macro Canon 430 & 580 flashes

23rd of November 2008 (Sun)	#2
liquidstone insane Bird photographer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,057	Re: where to host video's Vimeo rocks. Free at a max of 500 MB/week, you can upload up to 2GB/week + perks for a paid account. http://www.vimeo.com __________________ Romy Ocon, Philippine Wild Birds Over 260 species captured in habitat, and counting. Looooong Lens Imaging (1000 mm and beyond) Last edited by liquidstone : 23rd of November 2008 (Sun) at 21:35.

24th of November 2008 (Mon)	#3
tekkie Goldmember Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Clarkston, MI Posts: 2,613 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: where to host video's looks pretty good for 60 bucks a year thanks for the link __________________ Canon 1DMKII, 7D, 5DMKII, 1D MKII Canon 500L, 100-400L, 70-200 2.8L, 17-40L, 24-105L, 24mm 2.8,50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, 135mm 2.8 SF, 100mm Macro Canon 430 & 580 flashes

6th of December 2008 (Sat)	#4
aussieskier just that stupid? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boring, Oregon... Yes its a real place. Posts: 10,608 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: where to host video's I'll definitely second Vimeo, loads better than Youtube! __________________ Riley Gear list "Keepin' it rural" In yeast we trust...

7th of December 2008 (Sun)	#5
osv Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 153	Re: where to host video's youtube 720p blows vimeo 720p out of the water: 1)better codec: h.264 vs. flash vp6 2)you can embed youtube video, but it will have the logo on the vid 3)youtube is vbr, vimeo is cbr, which takes up more bandwidth 4)youtube records at ~25% higher bandwidth than vimeo does 5)vimeo can't do more than 24fps, youtube can do 30fps

7th of December 2008 (Sun)	#6
osv Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 153	Re: where to host video's compare it for yourself, both of these vids were encoded from the same source video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxua4ALWHms&fmt=22 http://www.vimeo.com/2431829 notice how the vimeo panning and zooming in stutters, while the youtube version isn't nearly as bad... that's because vimeo can't handle 30p, it drops frames to make it 24p. i play this stuff back on a 24" crt, not an lcd; the youtube h.264 scaling is better than the vimeo flash scaling. Last edited by osv : 12th of December 2008 (Fri) at 15:26. Reason: FIXED YOUTUBE LINK

10th of December 2008 (Wed)	#8
osv Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 153	Re: where to host video's the youtube clip has much better picture quality than the vimeo clip, the bitrate numbers prove it... and it doesn't have that horrible stuttering that you get with vimeo. i believe that youtube will encode 25p if it's pal, but i've never tried to upload ntsc 25p.

11th of December 2008 (Thu)	#11
hawkeye60 Goldmember Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 2,079 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: where to host video's I agree the Youtube looks like crap compared to Vimeo. Regardless of the specs, I use Vimeo all the time, it simply looks better. __________________ It's a lens not a lense! The truest test of character is what you do when you think no one is looking.

11th of December 2008 (Thu)	#12
osv Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 153	Re: where to host video's tell ya what... how about if i try and make this real simple, maybe give you still guys something that you can relate to? tell me which frame grab came from vimeo: Last edited by osv : 11th of December 2008 (Thu) at 22:46.

12th of December 2008 (Fri)	#13
BJWOK Goldmember Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 3,604 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: where to host video's the bottom one __________________ My name is Benon (BJWOK are my initials) www.bjwok.com (Website) Benon Koebsch - Photographer (Facebook page) Tour Photographers (A group for like-minded photographers on Facebook)

12th of December 2008 (Fri)	#14
danskim Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 427	Re: where to host video's Your clip on YouTube doesn't have the link "watch in high quality" that other YouTube HD videos I've seen. And that's why it looks terrible I think. __________________ Gear and Feedback

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