What 1.6x magnification factor really is

Tomsk · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

I finally figured it out. It's only indirectly related to the apparent focal length of lenses.

It's the magnification of the cumulative negative effect that buying a DSLR has on your bank balance.

What about the the full frame 1Ds and 1.3x 1D I hear (some of) you saying?

People who purchase the full frame 1D already have oodles of kit to go with the camera and thus don't need to spend any more once they've got the camera.

1.3x 1D purchasers also have lots of kit because but not as muich as 1Ds owners.

1.6x purchasers have probably bought their first DSLR and thus start spending more to get the bits they 'really' need. Eventually some 1.6x purchasers move on to 1.3x DSLR.

kawter2 · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

whoa im confused, dont know if i should chuckle of go buy a 1ds lol

SkipD · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Sounds like the absolute best excuse in the world to give the better half so I can finally get that 1DS Mark II....... NOT!!!! (not if I want to live another year, that is)

Jim_T · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

You might want to follow this thread.. Only 10,000 posts on the subject already

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...ad.php?t=45388

Jon · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_T

You might want to follow this thread.. Only 10,000 posts on the subject already

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...ad.php?t=45388

No. This one is really different. I think he's got something (until B&H cleans out his bank account, at least).

ScottE · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

If you shoot a Rebel, D30, D60, 10D or 20D the real problem is that if you move to a 1Ds you have a .625 magnification factor. All of a sudden your 400mm lens acts like it is only 250mm when you put it on a 1Ds or 1DsMk2. That is the guy with a problem. He has to go out an buy a 600mm lens to get the same perspective. Those things aren't cheap and you have to hire a porter to carry them around because they are so heavy and awkward to move.

Scott

tim · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

The crop factor is only important if you've used a 35mm camera for a long time. If not, a lens does what it does, who cares what it does on a 35mm camera.

transcend · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim

The crop factor is only important if you've used a 35mm camera for a long time. If not, a lens does what it does, who cares what it does on a 35mm camera.

apparently the humour was lost on this one.

FlyingPete · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by transcend

apparently the humour was lost on this one.

Yep

Read the first post CAREFULLY, he does have a point! The rule doesn't seem to apply to film though, unless you take into account medium format!

tim · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

I didn't read the original post quite as carefully as I should have

cactusclay · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Holy crap Tim, you are now a gold member. When do you sleep?

Vega$50 · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Funny...I am going to use that one...

RJSorensen · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Lord Help Us Get It Right . . .

Tom W · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim

I didn't read the original post quite as carefully as I should have

Me neither, which is not unusual. what is unusual is that I didn't post a response earlier.

FlyingPete · 31st of March 2005 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cactusclay

Holy crap Tim, you are now a gold member. When do you sleep?

More to the point when do you work

I on'y have time for this forum when I am between tasks at work, never at home, you can tell if I am off site on a project, as I don't post for a few days.

31st of March 2005 (Thu)	#1
Tomsk Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 130	What 1.6x magnification factor really is I finally figured it out. It's only indirectly related to the apparent focal length of lenses. It's the magnification of the cumulative negative effect that buying a DSLR has on your bank balance. What about the the full frame 1Ds and 1.3x 1D I hear (some of) you saying? People who purchase the full frame 1D already have oodles of kit to go with the camera and thus don't need to spend any more once they've got the camera. 1.3x 1D purchasers also have lots of kit because but not as muich as 1Ds owners. 1.6x purchasers have probably bought their first DSLR and thus start spending more to get the bits they 'really' need. Eventually some 1.6x purchasers move on to 1.3x DSLR.

31st of March 2005 (Thu)	#2
kawter2 Goldmember Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,046	Re: What 1.6x magnification factor really is whoa im confused, dont know if i should chuckle of go buy a 1ds lol __________________ Wedding Blog Eric J. Weddings

31st of March 2005 (Thu)	#3
SkipD Cream of the Crop Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA Posts: 18,509	Re: What 1.6x magnification factor really is Sounds like the absolute best excuse in the world to give the better half so I can finally get that 1DS Mark II....... NOT!!!! (not if I want to live another year, that is) __________________ Skip Douglas A few cameras and over 45 years behind them ..... ..... but still learning all the time.

31st of March 2005 (Thu)	#4
Jim_T Goldmember Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Woodlands, MB, Canada Posts: 2,888 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: What 1.6x magnification factor really is You might want to follow this thread.. Only 10,000 posts on the subject already http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...ad.php?t=45388

31st of March 2005 (Thu)	#6
ScottE Goldmember Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kelowna, Canada Posts: 3,179	Re: What 1.6x magnification factor really is If you shoot a Rebel, D30, D60, 10D or 20D the real problem is that if you move to a 1Ds you have a .625 magnification factor. All of a sudden your 400mm lens acts like it is only 250mm when you put it on a 1Ds or 1DsMk2. That is the guy with a problem. He has to go out an buy a 600mm lens to get the same perspective. Those things aren't cheap and you have to hire a porter to carry them around because they are so heavy and awkward to move. Scott

31st of March 2005 (Thu)	#7
tim Light Bringer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 47,928 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: What 1.6x magnification factor really is The crop factor is only important if you've used a 35mm camera for a long time. If not, a lens does what it does, who cares what it does on a 35mm camera. __________________ NZIPP Qualified Professional wedding photographer. Camera and Lens Reviews ~ Wellington Wedding Photographer Wellington Wedding Photographer (site2) ~ Wellington Wedding Photographer (site3) Read all my FAQs (wedding, printing, lighting, books, etc)

31st of March 2005 (Thu)	#11
cactusclay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,610	Re: What 1.6x magnification factor really is Holy crap Tim, you are now a gold member. When do you sleep?

31st of March 2005 (Thu)	#12
Vega$50 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 178	Re: What 1.6x magnification factor really is Funny...I am going to use that one... __________________ *"Pedro... offers you his protection!" - N.D. 2005* *Notice*: My post is packaged by intellectual weight, not volume. Some settling of contents may have occurred during transmission. www.sfstudios.net www.tinstars.org <-Galleries www.fstopforums.com

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RJSorensen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Near Tin Cup, Wyoming, USA Posts: 1,706 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: What 1.6x magnification factor really is Lord Help Us Get It Right . . . __________________ "With Some Practice . . . I Am Able to Believe Six Impossible Things Before Breakfast!" 5D, 20D, EF 50 f/1.4, EF 16-35 L, EF-S 17-85, EF 24-70 L, EF 100-400 L, 1.4 TC II, Tubes, 550 EX, 580 EX.

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