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Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 L (non IS)

 
rmwood
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Mar 14, 2009 18:51 |  #1

There is a guy selling a 400mm 2.8 "version 1" lens, supposedly in very good condition. I'm guessing this is an older version before IS. Price is $1700. What are your thoughts on this lens? I already have a 400 5.6, but would love 2 more stops if it's as good optically as the 5.6.

Thanks!
Darin

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Mar 15, 2009 17:06 |  #2

The Mk1 400/2.8 was the first of the EF (Auto focus) mount ones. It was not regarded as terrific when used wide open, but got better from f4.5 onwards. The copy I had was not bad wide open, but it did suffer a bit from CA. I upgraded to the Mk11 and the difference was very noticeable, with punchier contrast and almost no CA it was a very good lens.
The newest version is the IS one and it is much lighter than the previous mk1 and 11's and focuses a bit quicker. Optically it is pretty similar to the Mk11 and seems to resist flare a bit more. When coupled with a 1.4x the optics really show their pedigree, with next to no quality loss and only the slightest drop in contrast.
If I were you I'd be looking for a mk2 or an IS model, as the Mk1 is really pretty old now and any out there will have done a lot of work and could be getting close to needing a new USM motor, which are getting pretty rare now that they are no longer made.

If you wanted a cheaper way of gaining 2 stops look for a Canon 50D body to replace your 30D, the noise difference between them would be almost there; and it would be a lot lighter to carry


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Mar 16, 2009 08:12 |  #3

Thanks for the info, that's exactly what I was looking for. I think I am going to pass on this one. I love my 400 5.6! As for upgrading the 30D, good advice, and I was forced into taking it. My 30D and 3 lenses, including 70-200 2.8 IS, were stolen. So with the insurance money I am now an owner of a new 5D2, awesome camera! I guess I need to update my sig.


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Karl ­ Johnston
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Mar 16, 2009 23:56 |  #4
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HOLY CRAP 1700???? WHERE IS THIS LISTING?


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Aug 21, 2009 08:13 |  #5

I see this is supposed to be the lens sample archive. This thread has no lens samples.

My copy of the Canon 400mm L f2.8 is a battle-scarred veteran. Scratches on the front protective element, a chunk bit out of the hood, rim dented. I call it "Bolo" after the Keith Laumer Sci-Fi books on battle tanks.

Here's my sample. Same image, the whole capture, unedited except for JPG conversion and a 100 percent crop. The crop was slightly lightened to bring out the details of the flower stamen, but no USM was applied.

Canon 50D, 400mm L, ISO 200, 36mm Kenko extension tube, tripod, 1/800s @ f5.6.

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Jan 25, 2010 17:20 as a reply to advaitin's post |  #6

Hummingbird, Canon 7D, 400mm f2.8 L (version 1) 1/200s @ f2.8. ISO 640.

Good enough for non-is and on a monopod.

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Skriz
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Jun 01, 2010 18:48 |  #7

Great for non-IS!


The Wishlist: Canon EOS 7D Gripped | Canon EF-S 10-22mm ƒ/3.5-4.5 USM | Canon EF-S 17-55mm ƒ/2.8 IS USM | Canon EF 70-200mm ƒ/2.8L IS USM | Canon EF 100-400mm ƒ/4.5-5.6L IS USM - Only $7,100 worth of gear!

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Sep 22, 2010 11:32 |  #8

I'm grave digging but I just acquired this glassware (Mark II version) at an extraordinary price... Anyhoo... Just wanted to share my enjoyment...

The faceplate...
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The front hood ding...
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First sample shot taken @ f/2.8... 1D2N + 35L on the window sill (sp?)...
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:)

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Sep 25, 2010 14:34 |  #9

Bumpity bump with a few samples... More forthcoming... Anyone else have this wonderful glass here? Please post so I don't feel alone... Hehhehehehhee... :)

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Sep 28, 2010 12:19 |  #10

BIF Bokeh... These suckers were hard to track... Luckily the AI-Servo on my 1D-series locked on nicely as it flew by several times...

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Needed to use a 2x TCon to capture this lovely moment of a baby dolphin and its mother breaching for air... They were roughly 300+ yards away from the cliffside I was shooting at...

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More sample captures coming... :)

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Sep 28, 2010 15:29 |  #11

SNSagency wrote in post #7528955external link
If you wanted a cheaper way of gaining 2 stops look for a Canon 50D body to replace your 30D, the noise difference between them would be almost there; and it would be a lot lighter to carry

Is that so?
http://www.dxomark.com ...and)/Canon/(brand2)​/Canonexternal link

I have been told from many sources that EOS 40D has the lowest noise level compared to 20D, 30D and 50D..but there is just minor difference.
I have had both, 20D and 40D, even 450D...not much difference @ high iso noise.

But oh man I want that 400mm f/2.8L! Its a beaty of optics!


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Oct 06, 2010 10:52 |  #12

^ Yes sir... The optics are outstanding for a 13 years old lens... The weight of this "beast" is another story, though... Hehheehheeee... Who needs a gym membership when you've got this carrying around... Hhahahahahaaha... Anyhoo... Two more captures to contribute...

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Oct 13, 2010 22:58 |  #13

Sample capture of the half-moon for October 2010...

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Canon XTi + 400 2.8L II + Kenko Pro TCons (stacked) 1.4x + 2x = 1,792mm

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Leo ­ Stutzmann
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Oct 14, 2010 06:48 |  #14

^^^ Wow, nice butchie. What shutter speed and aperture did you use?


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Oct 14, 2010 07:20 |  #15

If I remember correctly, 1/100sec @ f/16... Thanks for the comment Leo!!!

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