5D External Mic Advice

KoolaGirl · 15th of April 2009 (Wed)

Can anyone recommend a good external mic to use with the 5D? I get this crackling noise when I film. I am going to be using the mic to record mostly instrumental music (piano). Here is a video that I shot today. The sound isn't bad, it's just the crackling noise. It really takes away from the piece.

http://vimeo.com/4173949

Can anyone give me any advice on what to do/buy so that I will get better sound quality? thanks!

Super-Nicko · 18th of April 2009 (Sat)

which lens? sounds like IS

??

your on a pod so you can turn it off - hit start early and edit out where you touch the cam.... (which youve done anyways...)

i hear alot of people looking at the rode video mic... shotgun mic, attaches to where the flash goes.. but havent used one myself... i would imagine youd want something separate for your audio recording in that scenario with a time stamped start and mix it in post - especially seeing as your vid is more about audio than video...

ErrantWanderlust · 22nd of April 2009 (Wed)

I've got a Rode Videomic. It sounds really good, and it won't break your budget. But ditto to the above poster, if you're serious about sound, record outside camera.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...a_Mounted.html

u02bnpx · 17th of June 2009 (Wed)

But how would you attach a Rode on a 5d mk ii when the camera doesn't have a hot shoe?

Prssinglecut · 18th of June 2009 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by u02bnpx

But how would you attach a Rode on a 5d mk ii when the camera doesn't have a hot shoe?

Mine does.

Phil

Tony-S · 18th of June 2009 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by u02bnpx

But how would you attach a Rode on a 5d mk ii when the camera doesn't have a hot shoe?

Huh?

u02bnpx · 18th of June 2009 (Thu)

Mea maxima culpa. Or, as Homer Simpson would say, "Duh!" I was muddled...thinking of onboard flash.

FlyingPhotog · 18th of June 2009 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoolaGirl

Can anyone recommend a good external mic to use with the 5D? I get this crackling noise when I film. I am going to be using the mic to record mostly instrumental music (piano). Here is a video that I shot today. The sound isn't bad, it's just the crackling noise. It really takes away from the piece.

http://vimeo.com/4173949

Can anyone give me any advice on what to do/buy so that I will get better sound quality? thanks!

Music recording is a world unto itself...

Pianos are usually "close mic'd" IOW, the mic is mounted IN the piano or on a side to maximize the sound quality.

If nothing else, you want a very directional (aka "shotgun") microphone that will help attenuate surrounding noise.

IIRC, the one mentioned above is shock mounted and fits the hotshoe mount.

Tony-S · 18th of June 2009 (Thu)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErrantWanderlust

I've got a Rode Videomic. It sounds really good, and it won't break your budget. But ditto to the above poster, if you're serious about sound, record outside camera.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...a_Mounted.html

Well, I just ordered this. $150 online, but only $130 if you call them.

echo · 18th of June 2009 (Thu)

Don't expect amazing sound from a budget (less than $500) shotgun mic. The Sennheiser (eg mke 300's) or Rode's will be decent but will never be excellent.

garypasz · 19th of June 2009 (Fri)

I picked up a (Sony ECM-MS-908-C) really did not know how deep I would go into video but so far its been good but have not tryied it outside in windy conditions as yet.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ecmms908c&ci=0

Prssinglecut · 19th of June 2009 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by u02bnpx

Mea maxima culpa. Or, as Homer Simpson would say, "Duh!" I was muddled...thinking of onboard flash.

No probs

I thought mine may have been special

Phil

Prssinglecut · 19th of June 2009 (Fri)

I was thinking about going down the route of a seperate digi recorder like an Edirol / Tascam and then put the video and sound together in software.

Phil

morganhn · 22nd of August 2009 (Sat)

For recording music, the place you have the camera most likely isn't the place you want to place your microphone(s)..

If you're on a budget Korg MR1, Zoom H2 or H4 would get you started.. Be sure to record in 24bit/48kHz to match your movies sample rate..
Import the files in your editing software and sync it with the sound from the camera.. (a short transient like a hand clap will make it very easy to sync)

Cheers,
Morgan

Jeremy H · 22nd of August 2009 (Sat)

I'm using the Zoom H4n as others have suggested. It's a perfect solution, with stamp for post, and a couple of XLR jacks for whatever mic you'd like to use. It comes with wind screen, carrying case, tripod mount (get a cheap tripod and you're set!) and a 1gig SD card. You can obviously upgrade your card, but I get an hour at 24bit 48k with the 1gig! Pretty decent, considering one of my cams; the 40d or 5d2 came with a 32mb SD card, LOL! It's a true 4 track recorder built in, which is great...the internal mics are also very high quality and switchable to 90/120 degree recording.
I had been using the Tascam, DR-1 which is decent but without the XLR inputs.

I'd stay away from recording with the "in camera" audio. The auto gain control is a pain. The Magic Lantern F/W may be worth looking at for ya too. It gives you audio levels and a bit more control over AGC.

J

15th of April 2009 (Wed)	#1
KoolaGirl Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC/FLA Posts: 57 IMAGE EDITING OK	5D External Mic Advice Can anyone recommend a good external mic to use with the 5D? I get this crackling noise when I film. I am going to be using the mic to record mostly instrumental music (piano). Here is a video that I shot today. The sound isn't bad, it's just the crackling noise. It really takes away from the piece. http://vimeo.com/4173949 Can anyone give me any advice on what to do/buy so that I will get better sound quality? thanks!

18th of April 2009 (Sat)	#2
Super-Nicko Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,652 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 5D External Mic Advice which lens? sounds like IS?? your on a pod so you can turn it off - hit start early and edit out where you touch the cam.... (which youve done anyways...) i hear alot of people looking at the rode video mic... shotgun mic, attaches to where the flash goes.. but havent used one myself... i would imagine youd want something separate for your audio recording in that scenario with a time stamped start and mix it in post - especially seeing as your vid is more about audio than video... __________________ My gallery - just posted some of my top shots 1DmkIII / 5DMKII [50mm f1.4] [85mm f1.8] [100mm f2.8 MACRO] [17-40mm f/4L] [24-70mm f/2.8L USM] [24-105mm f/4L IS USM] [100-400mm f/4.5-f 5.6L IS USM] Canon 1.4xII - Speedlite 580EXII - EPSON P-5000 - Lowepro Bags - Manfrotto 682B Monopod & 055XproB Tripod - 488RC2

22nd of April 2009 (Wed)	#3
ErrantWanderlust Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5	Re: 5D External Mic Advice I've got a Rode Videomic. It sounds really good, and it won't break your budget. But ditto to the above poster, if you're serious about sound, record outside camera. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...a_Mounted.html

17th of June 2009 (Wed)	#4
u02bnpx Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 154	Re: 5D External Mic Advice But how would you attach a Rode on a 5d mk ii when the camera doesn't have a hot shoe?

18th of June 2009 (Thu)	#7
u02bnpx Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 154	Re: 5D External Mic Advice Mea maxima culpa. Or, as Homer Simpson would say, "Duh!" I was muddled...thinking of onboard flash.

18th of June 2009 (Thu)	#10
echo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A recording studio somewhere in the UK or USA Posts: 1,957	Re: 5D External Mic Advice Don't expect amazing sound from a budget (less than $500) shotgun mic. The Sennheiser (eg mke 300's) or Rode's will be decent but will never be excellent. __________________ http://www.RecordProduction.com http://www.facebook.com/RecordProduction

19th of June 2009 (Fri)	#11
garypasz Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 173 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 5D External Mic Advice I picked up a (Sony ECM-MS-908-C) really did not know how deep I would go into video but so far its been good but have not tryied it outside in windy conditions as yet. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ecmms908c&ci=0 __________________ Gary 5D mkII; D-Lux 5; Lens: 24-105 f4 IS; 24-70 f/2.8; 70-200 f/2.8 IS; 85 f/1.2 II; Extender EF 1.4x II; EF 2x II; Flashs Metz 76 MZ-5; Canon 580EXII ; Leica CF-22

19th of June 2009 (Fri)	#13
Prssinglecut Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 223	Re: 5D External Mic Advice I was thinking about going down the route of a seperate digi recorder like an Edirol / Tascam and then put the video and sound together in software. Phil __________________ Canon 1D Mk IV / Canon 24 - 70mm f2.8 L USM / Canon 85mm f1.2 L / Canon 70 - 200mm F2.8 L IS USM / Think Tank Antidote V2 / Think Tank Retrospective 30 Pinestone

22nd of August 2009 (Sat)	#14
morganhn Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 20	Re: 5D External Mic Advice For recording music, the place you have the camera most likely isn't the place you want to place your microphone(s).. If you're on a budget Korg MR1, Zoom H2 or H4 would get you started.. Be sure to record in 24bit/48kHz to match your movies sample rate.. Import the files in your editing software and sync it with the sound from the camera.. (a short transient like a hand clap will make it very easy to sync) Cheers, Morgan __________________ gear: EOS 5D mkII \| EOS 40D \| 85L Mk II \| 24-70L \| 580EX II Elinchrome Style RX 600 kit \| EL Octa 190cm \| EL Softlite 82

22nd of August 2009 (Sat)	#15
Jeremy H Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 152 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 5D External Mic Advice I'm using the Zoom H4n as others have suggested. It's a perfect solution, with stamp for post, and a couple of XLR jacks for whatever mic you'd like to use. It comes with wind screen, carrying case, tripod mount (get a cheap tripod and you're set!) and a 1gig SD card. You can obviously upgrade your card, but I get an hour at 24bit 48k with the 1gig! Pretty decent, considering one of my cams; the 40d or 5d2 came with a 32mb SD card, LOL! It's a true 4 track recorder built in, which is great...the internal mics are also very high quality and switchable to 90/120 degree recording. I had been using the Tascam, DR-1 which is decent but without the XLR inputs. I'd stay away from recording with the "in camera" audio. The auto gain control is a pain. The Magic Lantern F/W may be worth looking at for ya too. It gives you audio levels and a bit more control over AGC. J __________________ Canon 1D4/5D2/7D/G10/G9/S95 Canon 24-70L24-105L70-200 IS/2.8LV216-35L35L50L85L.v2200L400mm f4 DO/IS100mm2.8 macro70-300isSigma 10-20&50/1.4--580EX2 (x2) (Motion) Panasonic HVX200a/HPX170 and Sony EX-1**{Mac/FCP/PS/AE}

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