Infrared with 5D MKII

[Youngster]

I've found videos, pictures, blogs and what not about it, but for some reason I have not been able to find the following:

Infrared photos taken with a normal 5D MK II. That is, no tweaks, nothing used but a standard infrared filter (the R72 is the most common I would assume).

I'd like to try out infrared photography with my 5D MK II, but with the prices of infrared filters being what they are I don't feel like buying one out of the blue only to find the results to be nothing what I had imagined.

If you have any shots or can direct me to any I'd appreciate it greatly!

Cheers!

[Youngster]

Anyone?

/Bumpity bump.

[monty28428]

Check out John_B's (a member here) website -> link

[Youngster]

Very good and useful, thank you!

[r.morales]

I posted this a couple minutes ago for 1ds above
I just started playing with an XTI and a 760 nano filter . [ EFS 17-55 - iso 400 - f 5.6 - EV 15 - started working at 1 minute , 1 1/2 and 2 . ] I used a tripod and canon's intralval timer . It took a while to figure out I had to set on bulb . Manual and timer only work in bulb mode .
After shutter closes , it takes about a minute for camera to load picture to card .
I had a redish or pinkish cast to the shots . Looking for answer to either remove or shoot so I don't get the color cast .
You need a tripod and some kind of remote to time shutter .
Hope this helps .

[Picture North Carolina]

Originally Posted by r.morales

I posted this a couple minutes ago for 1ds above
I just started playing with an XTI and a 760 nano filter . [ EFS 17-55 - iso 400 - f 5.6 - EV 15 - started working at 1 minute , 1 1/2 and 2 . ] I used a tripod and canon's intralval timer . It took a while to figure out I had to set on bulb . Manual and timer only work in bulb mode .
After shutter closes , it takes about a minute for camera to load picture to card .
I had a redish or pinkish cast to the shots . Looking for answer to either remove or shoot so I don't get the color cast .
You need a tripod and some kind of remote to time shutter .
Hope this helps .

I am shooting with a converted IR camera, so I dont know for sure but the technique used to set WB may also work with a filtered / unconverted camera.

Use green grass to set a custom WB. Zoom in, fill the frame, blur a little. Also note that at least in my version of PS (CS2) you cannot use adobe ACR to process IR files. There is a hardcoded WB limit that will not allow an IR raw to show correctly. At best it is processed with a strong magenta / red color cast. So far, just about the only app I have found that will properly process and balance an IR raw is DPP.

[r.morales]

I see you found 2 of the posts - maybe some one else can help us .
I am looking for a book on it
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...49#post8153049

[WillyPhoto]

I've done it a few times with a 5D MKII, unfortunately I don't have anything on the net to show yet. It's looks pretty decent, but keep in mind that you're not going to get a perfect photo since these cameras are designed to block as much IR light as they can. I'm using a Lee 4x4 #87 in a Cokin Z-Pro holder.

A word of warning, the exposure compensation for my setup is 19 stops, which means a shot that would normally be exposed at, oh say 1/2000 will take 8 minutes with the filter.

If you're want some cool landscape or scenic shots, it's a great setup for a good price; though anything handheld simply isn't possible without having the low-pass filter removed.

Hope that helps!

[Youngster]

Thanks a bunch! I'm still not sure whether it's worth investing in an R72 filter, though.... I mean, for say the 24-105 lense it's a relatively expensive filter...

[r.morales]

Watch ebay and just bid low on the ones from Hong Kong or China .
I have seen 2 here in market place that were free - I missed both .

[Youngster]

I''ll have to do that! So far the prices on Ebay are not a bit lower than straight from the shelf of any online store.

[r.morales]

T did not go for name brands . I looked at shipping , then went 1/3 of B & H price .
I have adapter rings to almost any from 52 to 77 and down the other way .
Since I am playing / don't know if I will loose interest , I don't go for more money than a pizza .

[Youngster]

Asking for advice:

Should I buy a 62mm Hoya R72 with a 77-62 step-down ring for my 24-105mm 4L, or a 52mm Hoya R72 for my 50mm 1.4? It's a matter of opinion, of course, but I'm interested in all opinions

[r.morales]

from various sources , I copied add pasted --
Good for IR
Canon EF 50mm/1.8 Mk.I
Canon EF 17-40mm/4 L USM
Canon EF 24-70mm/2.8 L USM
Canon EF 24-105mm/4 L IS USM
Canon EF 100-400mm/4.5-5.6 L IS USM
Sigma 180mm/3.5 EX HSM Macro
(the older non-DG version) Canon EF

Bad for IR
16-35mm/2.8 L USM (hot-spot)
Canon EF-S 10-22mm/3.5-4.5 USM
(no hot-spot, but long wavelengths "smear" at the edges)
Canon EF 28-135mm/3.5-5.6 IS USM (mild hot-spot)
efs 17-55 - hot spot
Canon 70-200 f/4 IS

With the 62mm you are going to be cropping , but the 24-105 is supposed to be good with IR .
I have not read about the 50 1.4 being either good or bad .
3 stops [ about ] is not going to make much difference - you will still need a tripod , I would go the cheapest route until you know if you are interested enough to warrant buying better toys .
Someone may post about the 50 1.4 .

[Youngster]

Originally Posted by r.morales

from various sources , I copied add pasted --
Good for IR
Canon EF 50mm/1.8 Mk.I
Canon EF 17-40mm/4 L USM
Canon EF 24-70mm/2.8 L USM
Canon EF 24-105mm/4 L IS USM
Canon EF 100-400mm/4.5-5.6 L IS USM
Sigma 180mm/3.5 EX HSM Macro
(the older non-DG version) Canon EF

Bad for IR
16-35mm/2.8 L USM (hot-spot)
Canon EF-S 10-22mm/3.5-4.5 USM
(no hot-spot, but long wavelengths "smear" at the edges)
Canon EF 28-135mm/3.5-5.6 IS USM (mild hot-spot)
efs 17-55 - hot spot
Canon 70-200 f/4 IS

With the 62mm you are going to be cropping , but the 24-105 is supposed to be good with IR .
I have not read about the 50 1.4 being either good or bad .
3 stops [ about ] is not going to make much difference - you will still need a tripod , I would go the cheapest route until you know if you are interested enough to warrant buying better toys .
Someone may post about the 50 1.4 .

Thank you greatly for this!

The difference in price doesn't seem that radical between the two options. I'm mostly interested in IR landscape photography, but then I'm curious about what you could achieve with infrared at 1.4....Hehe, it's always this difficult when trying to pick a new toy