50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh

booggerg · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

What the heck?? Does anyone have any example of a 50mm 1.4 lens wide open? I heard that has better brokeh

cactusclay · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

50/1.4@1.4. Sort of short notice and it's dark outside, but this is 3ft from subject and subject is about five feet from the TV.

tim · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

You're right, that is pretty ugly. Try searching by lens type on pbase.com

Dante King · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

Must be due to the light coming thru the tree. I had great results with my 1.8

booggerg · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

Or does the bokeh progressively get worse of objects further from the lens? those trees were perhaps 10-12 feet away from the camera lens.

CyberDyneSystems · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

We don't know what aperture you were shooting.. with the sun in the image I would asume you were stopped down a bit.. which would totally change the bokeh..

Also,. you may not have enough distance to the trees relative to your distance from the focus subject. ie: that your too far from the railing (the focus subject) ... try doing it where you are closer to the railing... and/or make sure you are shooting at f/1.8

CyberDyneSystems · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

Quote:

Originally Posted by booggerg

Or does the bokeh progressively get worse of objects further from the lens? those trees were perhaps 10-12 feet away from the camera lens.

The further you are from subject focus,. the larger the depth of feild.. so yes in a sense,. this could have something to do with it.

cmM · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

it's not as smooth indeed, due to the 5 blade diaphragm... you can do *a lot* better than that though (as far as bokeh).... that looks pretty ugly

Olegis · 24th of April 2005 (Sun)

The 50mm f/1.8 sometimes does produce some pretty ugly bokeh - here's a picture shot at 1.8 :

Andy_T · 25th of April 2005 (Mon)

You are right, the 50/1.4 is generally known to produce better bokeh.

Still, I think the main problem with your pictures is the harsh lighting conditions (light coming through tree). I've seen pictures from other lenses like this where I did not like the (otherwise nice) bokeh.

Y'know, when you think you know it all, there's another thing left to consider

Best regards,
Andy

roanjohn · 25th of April 2005 (Mon)

Blame it on the blades...........less blades = less rounded bokeh leading to the choppiness you see on your image.............I don't know how much better the f1.4 version would do though......but probably a tad better.

Ro1

bauerman · 25th of April 2005 (Mon)

Was this shot with the 1.8 or the 1.4 - title of the post and body of the post are not in agreement there.....??

Andy_T · 25th of April 2005 (Mon)

Take a look here for examples of the bokeh of the 2 lenses.

Best regards,
Andy

booggerg · 25th of April 2005 (Mon)

My original image was shot at 1.8. .I wouldn't put up a picture of any other aperature..

mr.photoguy · 25th of April 2005 (Mon)

heh.. this is at f3.2, or 3.5 I forgot the Av already.

http://www.pbase.com/brucescott/image/41829971/original

This is why I have the Tamron 28-75, and contemplating a 85 1.8 (used or new)

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booggerg User is banned from forums Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 460	50mm f/1.8 ugly bokeh What the heck?? Does anyone have any example of a 50mm 1.4 lens wide open? I heard that has better brokeh Last edited by booggerg : 24th of April 2005 (Sun) at 21:17.

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tim Light Bringer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 47,917 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh You're right, that is pretty ugly. Try searching by lens type on pbase.com __________________ NZIPP Qualified Professional wedding photographer. Camera and Lens Reviews ~ Wellington Wedding Photographer Wellington Wedding Photographer (site2) ~ Wellington Wedding Photographer (site3) Read all my FAQs (wedding, printing, lighting, books, etc)

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Dante King "Cream of Corn" BurgerMeister Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Anselmo, California Posts: 9,134 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh Must be due to the light coming thru the tree. I had great results with my 1.8 __________________ Dante I am not an Lcoholic. Lcoholics go to meetings! Gear List

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booggerg User is banned from forums Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 460	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh Or does the bokeh progressively get worse of objects further from the lens? those trees were perhaps 10-12 feet away from the camera lens.

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CyberDyneSystems Wait, all that time and all I get is "Cream of the Damn Crop" ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Providence RI Posts: 37,429 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh We don't know what aperture you were shooting.. with the sun in the image I would asume you were stopped down a bit.. which would totally change the bokeh.. Also,. you may not have enough distance to the trees relative to your distance from the focus subject. ie: that your too far from the railing (the focus subject) ... try doing it where you are closer to the railing... and/or make sure you are shooting at f/1.8 __________________ GEAR LIST CDS' HOT LINKS My POTN Share Threads Jake Hegnauer Photography

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cmM Goldmember Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago / San Francisco Posts: 5,705	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh it's not as smooth indeed, due to the 5 blade diaphragm... you can do a lot better than that though (as far as bokeh).... that looks pretty ugly

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Olegis Goldmember Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Israel Posts: 2,073	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh The 50mm f/1.8 sometimes does produce some pretty ugly bokeh - here's a picture shot at 1.8 : __________________ Best wishes, Oleg. www.Olegis.com My equipment list 'I take orders from no one except the photographers' – Harry S Truman

25th of April 2005 (Mon)	#10
Andy_T Compensating for his small ... sensor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stuttgart/Cologne, Germany Posts: 9,848 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh You are right, the 50/1.4 is generally known to produce better bokeh. Still, I think the main problem with your pictures is the harsh lighting conditions (light coming through tree). I've seen pictures from other lenses like this where I did not like the (otherwise nice) bokeh. Y'know, when you think you know it all, there's another thing left to consider Best regards, Andy __________________ some cameras, some lenses, and still a lot of things to learn... (so post processing examples on my images are welcome ) If you like the forum, vote for it where it really counts! CLICK here for the EOS FAQ CLICK here for the Post Processing FAQ CLICK here to understand a bit more about BOKEH Last edited by Andy_T : 9th of September 2005 (Fri) at 10:32.

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roanjohn Goldmember Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 3,791	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh Blame it on the blades...........less blades = less rounded bokeh leading to the choppiness you see on your image.............I don't know how much better the f1.4 version would do though......but probably a tad better. Ro1 __________________ www.pbase.com/roanjohn

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bauerman discount on value meals Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Idaho! Posts: 3,356	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh Was this shot with the 1.8 or the 1.4 - title of the post and body of the post are not in agreement there.....??

25th of April 2005 (Mon)	#13
Andy_T Compensating for his small ... sensor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stuttgart/Cologne, Germany Posts: 9,848 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh Take a look here for examples of the bokeh of the 2 lenses. Best regards, Andy __________________ some cameras, some lenses, and still a lot of things to learn... (so post processing examples on my images are welcome ) If you like the forum, vote for it where it really counts! CLICK here for the EOS FAQ CLICK here for the Post Processing FAQ CLICK here to understand a bit more about BOKEH

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booggerg User is banned from forums Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 460	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh My original image was shot at 1.8. .I wouldn't put up a picture of any other aperature..

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mr.photoguy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: new york Posts: 1,012	Re: 50mm f/1.8 ugly brokeh heh.. this is at f3.2, or 3.5 I forgot the Av already. http://www.pbase.com/brucescott/image/41829971/original This is why I have the Tamron 28-75, and contemplating a 85 1.8 (used or new) __________________ Bruce ~~Your learn a lot more when your camera is out of hybernation....~~ my pbase page C20D 10mm 2.5

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