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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #1
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Default What would you do if you had some bad photos?

So I shot a wedding using some rented lenses...unfortunately, there was a problem with one of my lenses...the left 25% of the image was always out of focus...I picked up the lenses right before the wedding, and had no time to test and view on a larger screen which would have easily shown the problem...out of about 1000 images, about 50 images display the issue...of those 50 images, I have enough similar type shots with other lenses that I could delete 40 of the 50 poorly focused images...so that leaves about 10 images that just stink! Do you just deliver these to the client? Hold them back and tell them the shots were no good? These were from a set of posed family shots that I'm sure the client will remember and notice are missing...
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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #2
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sorry, meant to put this in the "Business..." section, don't know what happened!
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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #3
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Default Re: What would you do if you had some bad photos?

I don't deliver bad photos.

If the choice is no photos or poor photos in a situation where retakes are impossible, I think I would deliver them what I had along with an apology, an explanation, and a refund.
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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #4
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Default Re: What would you do if you had some bad photos?

NEVER DELIVER IMAGES THAT YOU ARE UNSURE ABOUT!

Wow - I always have a fear of something like this happening when shooting weddings! Personally, I edit out ALL the pictures I have any doubt about - this usually takes my 1200 shots down to about 350-400. I would rather deliver 400 good shots than 800 mediocre shots.

Think of it this way, they will never see the shots that are deleted, so they won't know they ever existed!
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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #5
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Default Re: What would you do if you had some bad photos?

See if you can fix them, or crop, etc. but if not, I wouldn't deliver them. Are those 10 shots "key" shots?

Also - lesson learned - you will test your lenses next time won't you?
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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #6
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Default Re: What would you do if you had some bad photos?

How bad exactly are they, would the client notice if its in a small print?
Can you post an example?
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Delete the bad ones.
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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #8
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delete the bad ones if you don't have enough for their album give them a refund
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Give them a refund because 50 didn't work out? That's madness ! Unless you've specified that you would deliver 1000 or a certain number.

It's pretty standard to have some shots that don't work out or need to be culled; most photographers have at least 50% on average. The fact that 50 didn't work out isn't much to sweat over. It's very impressive you have that high of a keeping ratio, anyway, good job.
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sorry a poor attempt at irony on my part.

Twas a joke.

The party do not know how many images were taken and as long as you have not screwed up the formals they will never know!
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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #11
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So you're worried about 1% of the images being bad? Just delete them and use the other 990 images you took.

Don't give any bad work to the client. period.
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Old 26th of June 2009 (Fri)   #12
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I appreciate all the feedback...I have already deleted several hundred shots that are just poorly focused, un-salvageable, etc...

These 10 shots in question will most likely be noticed as they are family shots where anyone in the left quadrant is out of focus...It's definitely not noticeable on my 3" camera screen though!

But it would definitely be noticeable on a 4x6...I am not on my biz computer right now, so don't have a sample image, but can try to post one a bit later...

Still not totally sure if I should deliver or not, I can always leave them out and see if they notice...
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If you feel that you can't leave them out, can some editing do the trick? Maybe darken around the edges, or change to black and white with more contrast?
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I appreciate all the feedback...I have already deleted several hundred shots that are just poorly focused, un-salvageable, etc...

These 10 shots in question will most likely be noticed as they are family shots where anyone in the left quadrant is out of focus...It's definitely not noticeable on my 3" camera screen though!

But it would definitely be noticeable on a 4x6...I am not on my biz computer right now, so don't have a sample image, but can try to post one a bit later...

Still not totally sure if I should deliver or not, I can always leave them out and see if they notice...

sounds like user error.... like you didnt have enough DOF or something
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sounds like user error.... like you didnt have enough DOF or something
Nope...I was worried that maybe that was the issue for a bit, but these were shots with people standing side by side...

plus to test, when I got home and noticed the issue, I tested again to make sure I wasn't crazy...set up the camera for several shots on a tripod...setup some objects to photograph, all side by side...everything equidistant and symmetrical,...and just as I had suspected, everything in the left quadrant was out of focus...everything in the right and center was perfect...

plus rental shop agreed with me and didn't charge me for the lens after testing themselves...
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