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Old 23rd of July 2009 (Thu)   #1
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Howdy POTN Camp!

I have been watching a pair of buzzards and redkite for the last year where i walk my dog, sometimes they stick around for half hour or a few hours depending on the lift they find of the hill front...

I would LOVE to take some captures of these birds i watch most days. Normaly there at 300ft-400ft altitude for myself and my sigma 300mm is streched!

I have experience of hides and consealment, and on hand i have lots of camo (Ghillie suits etc..)


How would i get a swooping shoot of a buzzard coming to get some lunch?

location near a fence post with either a dead rabbit or live rabbit in a make shift small pen?


Im stuck, i have done quite a few searches already...

Any ideas?
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Old 23rd of July 2009 (Thu)   #2
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Default Re: Attracting Birds Of prey

You have five options.
1. You can try to watch their behavioral patterns and find a pattern that allows you to position yourself to photograph them.
2. You can try to call them with recordings of their calls.
3. You can try to attract them with food.
4. You can use a decoy Owl to see if they will try to attack it.
5. You can try combinations of all of the above.
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Old 23rd of July 2009 (Thu)   #3
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Default Re: Attracting Birds Of prey

I'm not a huge advocate of interfering with nature... however... if you go to Moose Peterson's blog, you find a video of him and a friend drawing a Harris' Hawk and a Carcara very close by laying out fresh meat (calf's hearts).
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Old 24th of July 2009 (Fri)   #4
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Default Re: Attracting Birds Of prey

Thank-you both for your ideas and help!

I also do agree that nature is nature, but giving them a easy meal once in a blue moon hopefuly wont ruin the equilibrium in the wildlife world.

Well this weekend there should be blue bright skies around here, and hopefuly they will turn up for a little while for some pictures...

i have a rough bearing on my GPS where there nesting, but have no disire to disrupt the young or get even close...

I did a scout with the dog also and have found a perfect location to build a natural hide that i can get into quite easy

thank you again


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Good luck with capturing your photo, Cosha. If everyone gave them a free meal for a photo shoot there would be trouble though. And, you'd not necessarily know if others were doing the same thing as you. So, if a million people all gave them a free feed thinking that it was only them giving away food then the "equilibrium" would be upset

That said, I will trust your judgement and agree with your conclusion that one free meal will not hurt.

Goog luck, and post the resulting photos!
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By the way, LEAVE THE DOG AT HOME
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yes, dog is staying at home!

Thank you for the kind words!

I dont expect to feed them up at all, i will try a few small bits first, if i do get some coming to feed, i might not get the shot, so i will leave them alone for a few months befor trying again...

I dont expect this to be a 5 min project could take me many many months, but its kind of a vision i have had for a year or more

I can only try

I have been told "Not to waste my time" and "Go to a bird zoo"

Now the same as raw wildlife birds of prey now is it

Other good news is now my girlfriend has seen how much i enjoy photography and is helping me save for a canon 100-400mm L lens

...a few months away but non the less progress
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Follow your visions, mate I did not mean to suggest that you should not try. In fact, I HOPE you try! And, nah, don't go to a bird zoo... the pics would not be the same. I wish you luck in your enterprise! Follow your dreams, mate, and don't accept second best
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live rabbit in a make shift small pen?



Theres a cruelty aspect by using a live rabbit as a decoy IMO.
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Thank you again flo!

Hi Con,

Yes i agree with that also, i was just thorwing idea out there as i dont know the "tricks" (If there is any)

I can safely and humanly dispatch virmin as i have been shooting for a fair few years and know the number one rule is to take the shot if your 99.9% happy that the game is dispatched first time

I will use a small chunk of red meat on a log or something?
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I can safely and humanly dispatch virmin as i have been shooting for a fair few years and know the number one rule is to take the shot if your 99.9% happy that the game is dispatched first time

A dead rabbit (split open to show it's innards) would be very attractive I would think.
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Old 30th of July 2009 (Thu)   #12
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had a try with this!

Mixed results really!

Had one that come fairly close after what seemed like forever, to busy watching it fly across the ridge back and forward, and totaly forgot i had a camera in my hand opps

But non seemed to want the bait, i could tell they were slightly interested, but they were being forced away by other birds...

I followed them almost 1/2 mile across a ridge to the south of me, they seem to like that place once they got out of the way of the squarkers!


still i enjoyed myself for a few hours, was nice and relaxed and comfortable prone in my ghillie suit - i expected to get quite hot but as i was not moving much the tempature was nice and snug - knd of like a sleeping bag when you get that coosy feeling

anyway thought i would just update you! no pictures as of yet!

i was trying not to snap away with the camera just incase they seen my lens


ill leave it now for a month or so and try again!

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