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DPP: Soft JPEG when 'convert & save' from RAW

 
grander
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Aug 05, 2009 06:16 |  #1

So I've just spent the better part of 5 hours on here reading past threads about this problem as I too had this happening... The processed JPEG that I opened in Windows Picture & Fax Viewer looked really soft compared to the modified RAW that was still open in DPP 3.5.

I followed what a member on here (Rene Damkot) was saying... compare them at 100% and decide. Rene was right, the images were about the same... a bit better result.

But to tell you the truth I dont really want to spend all this cash and time on photography so that when I show my mates or fiancee what I've been up to, the images look really soft at first glance.

I opened up the JPEG with Windows Viewer, the RAW with DPP and another copy of the JPEG with Quicktime Picture Viewer 7.6.

The Windows viewer was soft
DPP was sharp
Quicktime viewer was sharp

Any ideas why this would happen ?? Why would the programs differ ??
Is there another viewer I should be associating JPEGS with ?? or stay with Quicktime...

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Aug 05, 2009 07:42 |  #2

Sam

I had similar frustrations when comparing DPP with LR2. DPP was much better to my eye. Rene and Victoria provided some very useful insight into why it was the case. As a result I changed some of the settings in LR2 and now the 2 programs deliver very similar onscreen results.

It sounds like you've got a similar situation.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=732376

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Aug 05, 2009 09:09 |  #3

Yep. To be expected.

Don't use MS Picture & Fax viewer. Seriously. It sucks. And it doesn't color manage properly.
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If all you want to do is show the images on screen, I'd batch them out of DPP to screen size (in pixels) or a bit smaller, so that the resulting jpg is viewed at 100% in whatever viewer. That way, you can set the sharpness to what you want it to be, and the "viewing" software doesn't need to resize,so cannot screw up there.


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Aug 05, 2009 09:25 |  #4

grander wrote in post #8402229external link
But to tell you the truth I dont really want to spend all this cash and time on photography so that when I show my mates or fiancee what I've been up to, the images look really soft at first glance.



Sam

Why don't you just output the jpegs at a decent enough size to almost fill the screen. Thats what i do. That way you can view them at 100% automatically and they will look sharp no matter what you view them with.

EDIT: Ooops, i took so long to type this i didnt see its already been suggested. Sorry Rene.


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Aug 06, 2009 00:40 as a reply to dave_bass5's post |  #5

Thanks for the info Nigel. I'll do some reading up on that for sure.

And cheers Rene and dave... sounds like a good idea... I'll more than likely associate all jpegs with quicktime from now on as well.


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Aug 06, 2009 00:48 |  #6

Windows viewer doesn't have a proper resizing method, so everything ends up soft. Use a web browser like firefox instead, if you need to preview something.


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