Keywords and Categories

drews578 · 19th of May 2005 (Thu)

I am seeking a little advise

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Is there some sort of Lexicon and/or defined Hierarchy for photograpy categories and keywords (brings me back to biology class with Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species

)

What is the difference between keywords and categories? It seems for me they end up being the same words. What is the most effective way to be utilizing/inputing this metadata? My question is not how to input the data but rather what guidelines should I use for what words I input.

Any helpful links out there about this subject?

Thanks everyone!

Drew

Citizensmith · 19th of May 2005 (Thu)

dispatchermike21 · 19th of May 2005 (Thu)

Wow thats really cool, now in english please.

I think your asking about catigories? people or glamour... landscape or nature right? it's somewhat subjective but you wouldn't put a boat in people or your girlfriend in nature ( I hope ). is this what your looking for?

drews578 · 19th of May 2005 (Thu)

I am curious if there are any defined categories, and sub-categories to use when classifying photos.

What is the difference between categories and keywords.

It just ssems to me that having a defined (universal) way would improve searchabilty in image databases. It would be the same no matter who the photographer.

Is this any more clear?

Moppie · 19th of May 2005 (Thu)

Im not aware of any formal system of catorgrisation for photography, unless the pro's have a secret system.

You could try creating one, but how would you classify a photo of a car on beach with the sun setting behind it, a naked man and women having intercourse on the roof all be watched by a pigion?

thomascanty · 21st of May 2005 (Sat)

I think he's talking about the "Categories" IPTC field. I don't use it though, so I can't answer his question.

Pekka · 21st of May 2005 (Sat)

Quote:

Originally Posted by drews578

What is the difference between keywords and categories? It seems for me they end up being the same words. What is the most effective way to be utilizing/inputing this metadata? My question is not how to input the data but rather what guidelines should I use for what words I input.

Some explanations:

Category:

- A Category is the name for a collection of items that are related in some way.

- A classification assigned to an item that indicates the higher level grouping to which the item belongs.

Keyword:

- A significant word in the title, abstract or text of a work; some periodical indexes identify keywords in a separate data field, so that they can be searched without searching the full text of the document.

- A significant word in the abstract, title, subject headings (descriptors), or text of an entry in a bibliographic database which can be used as a search term in a free-text or natural language search.

- An essential or definitive term that can be used for indexing data, for later search and retrieval.

For example: you have a photo which belongs to categories "music" and "people" and "concert". As keywords you might add "radu lupu, berlin philharmonic, abbado, beard, steinway, rehearsal, backlight, bartok, smile".

drews578 · 23rd of May 2005 (Mon)

Ok.... makes sense... thanks for the info!

Since we have this disscussion going... what method (software) do you all use to edit your data?

I am currently using PS CS.

Drew

thomascanty · 23rd of May 2005 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by drews578

Since we have this disscussion going... what method (software) do you all use to edit your data?

I use BreezeBrowser to edit the IPTC fields. I don't use them all, though. I guess I probably only fill in about a third of the fields.

19th of May 2005 (Thu)	#1
drews578 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 236	Keywords and Categories I am seeking a little advise . Is there some sort of Lexicon and/or defined Hierarchy for photograpy categories and keywords (brings me back to biology class with Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species ) What is the difference between keywords and categories? It seems for me they end up being the same words. What is the most effective way to be utilizing/inputing this metadata? My question is not how to input the data but rather what guidelines should I use for what words I input. Any helpful links out there about this subject? Thanks everyone! Drew

19th of May 2005 (Thu)	#2
Citizensmith Cream of the Crop Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA USA Posts: 6,376 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Keywords and Categories Huh? __________________ My POTN Gallery, Complete gear list, POTN members who aren't a Turing test "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire Tradition - Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid.

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dispatchermike21 If you do it right, it doesn't hurt at all. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: My 40D Burst Rate is Hitting 6.5 FPS in the Pacific NW Posts: 2,321	Re: Keywords and Categories Wow thats really cool, now in english please. I think your asking about catigories? people or glamour... landscape or nature right? it's somewhat subjective but you wouldn't put a boat in people or your girlfriend in nature ( I hope ). is this what your looking for? __________________ To take Pictures is a gift to post them on POTN is an Honor. But to own a 40D that hits 6.5fps is a feeling like no other. http://www.pbase.com/dispatchermike http://msunderlin.smugmug.com/

19th of May 2005 (Thu)	#4
drews578 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 236	Re: Keywords and Categories I am curious if there are any defined categories, and sub-categories to use when classifying photos. What is the difference between categories and keywords. It just ssems to me that having a defined (universal) way would improve searchabilty in image databases. It would be the same no matter who the photographer. Is this any more clear?

19th of May 2005 (Thu)	#5
Moppie He's a Mod, He's a Mod. Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Akarana, Aotearoa. (Kiwiland) Posts: 14,265 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Keywords and Categories Im not aware of any formal system of catorgrisation for photography, unless the pro's have a secret system. You could try creating one, but how would you classify a photo of a car on beach with the sun setting behind it, a naked man and women having intercourse on the roof all be watched by a pigion? __________________ flickr Have you Calibrated your Monkey lately?

21st of May 2005 (Sat)	#6
thomascanty Bold. Pink. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In Transition Posts: 37,325	Re: Keywords and Categories I think he's talking about the "Categories" IPTC field. I don't use it though, so I can't answer his question. __________________ My name is Lonnie, but I answer to Thomas too. LDPhotography.net \| Weekly Pioneer "Young at heart. Slightly older in other parts."

23rd of May 2005 (Mon)	#8
drews578 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 236	Re: Keywords and Categories Ok.... makes sense... thanks for the info! Since we have this disscussion going... what method (software) do you all use to edit your data? I am currently using PS CS. Drew

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