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7d vs. 5d2 (someone gone and did it)

 
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Sep 25, 2009 21:21 |  #1

Someone gone and did a comparison like so many are curious to see. ISO 800 - 6400 comparisons. Follow the link:

http://forums.dpreview​.com ...rum=1019&message=33​154880external link

IMO, yes, FF is ultimately better. But 7D is pretty darn close.

(My apologies to all the 7D thread haters. But I felt this one was somewhat relevant.)

Again, this comparison was done by someone else. Not me. :)


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Sep 25, 2009 21:28 |  #2

3200 is pretty fugly on the 7d compared the the 5d2.


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Sep 25, 2009 21:29 |  #3

Those images clearly show the advantages of FF. Looks like noise is slightly improved over the 50D.

Now I'm waiting for a hands-on comparison of the AF system between the 7D and Nikon D300s.


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Sep 25, 2009 21:29 |  #4

mikekelley wrote in post #8710845external link
3200 is pretty fugly on the 7d compared the the 5d2.

Yep, but it's mostly chroma noise that makes it that way... If you look at just the luminance channels of both they're very similar. I'd imagine the 7D will clean up very nicely at 3200 with a bit of NR done properly.

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Sep 25, 2009 21:30 |  #5

Remind yourself that it is a crop camera ...crop crop :lol:


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Sep 25, 2009 21:31 |  #6

Thalagyrt wrote in post #8710855external link
Yep, but it's mostly chroma noise that makes it that way... If you look at just the luminance channels of both they're very similar. I'd imagine the 7D will clean up very nicely at 3200 with a bit of NR done properly.

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Obviously. But then what is the point of paying for high ISO if you're just going to NR it to holy hell?


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Sep 25, 2009 21:32 |  #7

mikekelley wrote in post #8710862external link
Obviously. But then what is the point of paying for high ISO if you're just going to NR it to holy hell?

Well, there's a difference between doing NR to holy hell and doing NR subtly. If you do just enough to smooth out the chroma but not lose actual detail in the image, then what's the loss aside from extra processing time?


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Sep 25, 2009 21:35 |  #8

What if we applied NR to the 5d2 and the 7d?

You can't just say "its just as good but there's chroma noise"

You've gotta be able to NR both the 5d2 and 7d, and it appears from this image that if that is the case, the 5d2 will dominate. Chroma noise is easier to get rid of, but its not like pushing a slider gets rid of it entirely. It's certainly not bad at all, but it's not going to touch a 5d2. If someone proves me wrong I will eat my words.


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Sep 25, 2009 21:38 |  #9

Call me old fashioned -- but I like my comparisons shot by someone who at least knows what white balance is.......


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Sep 25, 2009 21:39 |  #10

mikekelley wrote in post #8710883external link
What if we applied NR to the 5d2 and the 7d?

You can't just say "its just as good but there's chroma noise"

You've gotta be able to NR both the 5d2 and 7d, and it appears from this image that if that is the case, the 5d2 will dominate. Chroma noise is easier to get rid of, but its not like pushing a slider gets rid of it entirely.

I'm not disagreeing; the 5D2 will absolutely dominate here all things being equal. The 7D is a serious contender though. Also, I was talking about profiled noise reduction rather than reduction during the RAW conversion. Profiling is more effective at removing noise while retaining detail.


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Sep 25, 2009 21:40 |  #11

Thalagyrt wrote in post #8710907external link
I'm not disagreeing; the 5D2 will absolutely dominate here all things being equal. The 7D is a serious contender though. Also, I was talking about profiled noise reduction rather than reduction during the RAW conversion. Profiling is more effective at removing noise while retaining detail.

Sounds good to me :D


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mattograph wrote in post #8710905external link
Call me old fashioned -- but I like my comparisons shot by someone who at least knows what white balance is.......

Call me old fashioned, but I like to take photos instead of compare ISO 3200 shots at 100%. I'm just bored right now. :lol:


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Sep 25, 2009 21:41 |  #13

mikekelley wrote in post #8710845external link
3200 is pretty fugly on the 7d compared the the 5d2.

Heck its not that much difference ... :confused:



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Sep 25, 2009 21:43 as a reply to Thalagyrt's post |  #14

To those saying the 5D II is better... yes it is... but how much better to matter? That is the question. At 100% medium format is better... why don't you own that camera? Don't have $30,000 to spend? The 7D may (I need to see ISO100 samples) be something that closes the gap and makes APS-C good enough for all intents and purposes.




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Sep 25, 2009 21:47 |  #15

Thalagyrt wrote in post #8710914external link
Call me old fashioned, but I like to take photos instead of compare ISO 3200 shots at 100%. I'm just bored right now. :lol:

I agree. Last night I did an in-home family portrait. I shot it with my 5D2 at 800 iso. They loved it. I'll get paid.

Two months ago I shot a catalog with my 40D at 400 ISO. They loved it. They paid me.

Shot a feature with my G9 in May. Client loved it, ran it, and paid me.

As long as the sentence ends with "they paid me," I could give a flying **** what I shot it with (and what ISO I used to do it.)


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