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Tokina 35mm f/2.8 Macro

 
Wawrzysz
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Nov 10, 2009 17:22 |  #1

Has anyone got this lens? any chances for some samples?


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Nov 18, 2009 17:12 |  #2

I recently bought one used... prepare to be picture spammed :D
I already owned the Canon 100mm macro, but found a really good deal on it and just placed one of those "what if" bids... Score!

I made a topic with a bit of a mini-review here a while ago (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=773049).

A cross-post snippet from that (clickety-click for full sized versions on flickr):

And I added these two yesterday (used the first one for the FM weekly assignment 371).

#6: f/6.3, 1/200th, ISO 320

IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2745/4112621815_fe0405139a.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/mdstoop/4112621​815/] (external link)

#7: f/2.8, 1/125th, ISO 100
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/4112620583_97905e5ba0.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/mdstoop/4112620​583/] (external link)

If you want to keep track of it, this lens is on my camera a LOT lately, and I tag all my images with it on flickr with the equipment tag: Tokina AT-X M35 PRO DX 35mm f/2.8 Macro (external link).
Thanks for looking, C&C is always welcome and appreciated.

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Nov 18, 2009 23:22 |  #3

I have never heard of any lens ever getting less publicity than this Tokina 35mm 2.8 macro. Hardly any reviews and very little discussion. This comes from the same lens maker who made the wonderful and highly touted 11-16mm 2.8, which has had many reviews, and is discussed frequently. It looks like they sold at least one of these macros, as TweakMDS is an owner. I was curious about the sharpness in non macro photos. Would like to see some bokeh as well. If you have more to post, please do.




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Nov 19, 2009 02:18 |  #4

im so glad to see such a reply.
Are these samples jpeg or converted raws?
there is a comparison test of the equivalent pentax 35 2.8 and the sigma 30mm but I lost the link.
From what I ve found on the net, tokina m35 is very sharp however tends to produce a dull bokeh and seems to have not enough contrast at times. Any comme
nt on that? waiting anxiously for some indoor pics.


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Nov 19, 2009 02:32 |  #5

Samples are all converted raws (lightroom 2.4 - I think all the global settings are in the ExIF still), but I haven't fiddled with the conversion for hours, so there's possibly room for improvement there... ;)
I actually think the bokeh is nice, and pretty creamy, almost Sigma-like. It does have the nice circles (9-bladed aperture) when you include some small highlights in the background.

I'm at work right now, but I have the camera sitting next to me, so might take a few shots (close ups and some at infinity) with it later today during lunch. Any requests for indoor tests? I also have the Tamron 17-50 with me for possible comparison.


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Nov 19, 2009 06:39 as a reply to TweakMDS's post |  #6

I would be more than happy to see pictures of people indoors (average lighting conditions) taken with this extremely attractive lens. TweakMDS thanx again for the stuff you sent so far :)


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Nov 19, 2009 07:09 |  #7

For those of you that are interested: I did a quick & dirty comparison between the Tokina 35mm macro and Tamron 17-50 at 36mm (close enough I guess).

I shoot a simple frame near the office, and made a 710 x 710 pixels 100% crops out of the middle and the edges (left middle edge, the top / bottom were water/skye, so not interesting).

My quick conclusion: Tamron has a tiny bit more contrast in the middle, sharpness is a tie with a *slight* nudge towards the Tamron at F/2.8, but the Tokina seems to take it across the frame when stopped down..
The corners go to the Tokina at all apertures, hands down. In fact, I'm severely disappointed by my Tamron in this (in comparison to the Tokina 35mm macro anyway). I'll make it defend it's honour at 17mm against the Tokina 11-16 soon again.

Please feel free to correct my testing methods / check my exif for errors. I know I should really use a tripod and remote shutter, but my lunchbreak is technically only 30 minutes, and with these kind of shutterspeeds, it shouldn't have any impact...

Tokina @ F/2.8, middle

IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2547/4116635911_7889368214_o.jpg

Tamron @ F/2.8, middle
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4117404530_0115e96286_o.jpg

Tokina @ F/2.8, edge
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2498/4117405508_8e35eca873_o.jpg
Tamron @ F/2.8, edge
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2777/4116634805_c075c39493_o.jpg

Tokina @ F/5.6, middle
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2619/4116636225_24e5d9cf34_o.jpg
Tamron @ F/5.6, middle
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2563/4116635149_ca4fe1d6bc_o.jpg

Tokina @ F/5.6, edge
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2703/4117405870_dc3a18fc20_o.jpg
Tamron @ F/5.6, edge
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2600/4117404832_c4ceeaac3a_o.jpg

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Nov 19, 2009 07:09 |  #8

And continued at F8:
Tokina @ F/8, middle

IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2738/4116636585_1d5b05c53e_o.jpg
Tamron @ F/8, middle
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2731/4117405178_585c1850f0_o.jpg

Tokina @ F/8, edge
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2505/4117406238_77befcaf72_o.jpg
Tamron @ F/8, edge
IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2768/4116635519_524df9e849_o.jpg

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Nov 19, 2009 07:15 |  #9

Wawrzysz wrote in post #9042543external link
I would be more than happy to see pictures of people indoors (average lighting conditions) taken with this extremely attractive lens. TweakMDS thanx again for the stuff you sent so far

Not a problem, I enjoy doing it and contributing to every lens being well known. You might have to wait a while for different images of indoor people, but I'll make sure to use it at the next family meeting ;)

PS. The above images are all VERY unflattering for either lens. I used a basic color temperature, and did absolutely no other post processing than Lightroom 2.4's default raw conversion and cropping. All shots were handheld, but (imho) well within the handheld range of shutterspeeds. If this raises any conflicts, I'll redo them with a tripod and timer / cord.

As always, C&C is very welcome and appreciated. Full sized versions are available, but didn't really feel like uploading another 15mb just yet ;)


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Nov 19, 2009 13:45 as a reply to TweakMDS's post |  #10

clearly Tokina is sharper in the corners but I was expecting to see more detailed and smoother picture in case of the prime. Look forward for the indoors.


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Nov 19, 2009 16:50 |  #11

I was actually surprised at how well it held up against the Tamron 17-50, which is commonly considered to be pretty damn sharp. The Tokina owns the Tamron in the corners and there's not much to improve in the center I think. Like I said, these 100% crops (of a dull, grayish scene) are both unforgiving and unflattering for either lens.
The next time I go out shooting something more interesting, I'll make sure to do another comparison, and maybe throw the 50 1.8 and the 100mm macro in the mix.


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Nov 20, 2009 06:00 as a reply to TweakMDS's post |  #12

Wow, that would be the first comparative test of this lens on the net, it makes me really anxious to see the results.


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Nov 22, 2009 10:41 as a reply to Wawrzysz's post |  #13

has anybody else got some pics to share, please?


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Nov 22, 2009 14:20 |  #14

Hoya own TOkina and Pentax. This is essentially the same lens as the Pentax 35mm DA without sealing and the SWM AF. You might want to look up samples for that lens.


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Nov 27, 2009 06:43 as a reply to tkbslc's post |  #15

I decided to buy this tokina m35 and check it myself. I previously owned a sigma 24-60 which was a very decent lens, except for slight softness at 2.8 and general brownish/dull/offset color reproduction - sigma specific??? (of course this is my own personal opinion) I also own an old tokina atx 17mm pro which I like A LOT (excellent color rendition, smooth gradients etc/ a bit soft at 3.5)
First impressions about tokina m35:
-no lens hood
-comparing to tokina atx 17mm - not so solid, doesn't have the metal feel, kind of cheapo look although VERY good build quality comparing to canon ef lenses.
- AF precise - the sound is audible although acceptable for me
- color rendition is VERY precise - some lenses make colors pop, some make them change the hue and this tokina is WYSIWYG in my opinion
so far so good - sending two quick samples taken indoors - more soon
btw - chromatic abberations are visible

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