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Old 25th of September 2011 (Sun)   #1
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Default Canon 1ds Mark III vs 5D Mark II

Hey guys, I have read up on user's posts comparing the 1ds m3 vs 5d m2. Thanks, great info from lots of people!

I shoot weddings and currently own a 1ds m3 that I've been using for years since it came out. It's absolutely wonderful. I only have 1 camera body, but am saving up for a 5d m2 as a secondary camera to minimize lens changes.

My question is, do you think that the 5d will feel like a toy compared to the 1ds m3? Would I possibly feel regretful for downgrading or will I find many advantages to adding this borderline professional camera to my list of gear?

I just hate regretting a purchase!

Thanks in advance for your time and opinion.
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Old 25th of September 2011 (Sun)   #2
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it'll feel different. don't worry about regretting it, if you find you don't like its toyness you can easily sell it. 5d2's are in demand and will remain so for awhile.
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Old 25th of September 2011 (Sun)   #3
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I wouldn't get caught up too much in how it feels. What comes out of it is more important. If you need more heft/size, add a grip.
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IMO it would be a good low-light companion to the 1DsIII as it's not as good at high ISO as the 5D2.
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Old 25th of September 2011 (Sun)   #5
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I like what I hear, thanks! I asked my local dealer about newer models and such. He said that the 5dm2 should stay current for a couple more years at least because of the recent bad weather in Japan. Apparently they got set back about a year with regards to new model production and such. Not sure if that's true, but it sure makes sense. Thanks again.
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I like what I hear, thanks! I asked my local dealer about newer models and such. He said that the 5dm2 should stay current for a couple more years at least because of the recent bad weather in Japan. Apparently they got set back about a year with regards to new model production and such. Not sure if that's true, but it sure makes sense. Thanks again.
That makes sense, but maybe your dealers timelines are stretched out a bit. Bottom line is no one knows when the replacement for the 5d2 will happen. If you need/want one now, buy it now.
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Old 25th of September 2011 (Sun)   #7
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Wow look at the prices these guys have. What's up with that?

http://getondigital.com/products/pro...ucts_id=322579
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If it's too good to be true.............
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IMO it would be a good low-light companion to the 1DsIII as it's not as good at high ISO as the 5D2.
If you're shooting RAW it's better.
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If you're shooting RAW it's better.
False. The 5D2 is Canon's low light king other than the mark IV ATM and the 1DsII still hasn't been beaten for low ISO.
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Actually, the 1DsIII has higher quality preamps and A/D circuitry that give it a decided edge on the 5DII. No shadow banding, better CFA array for color accuracy. Plus it has a thinner AA filter so you get less 'smearing'.

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cam...rand2%29/Canon can help you compared the SNR graphs.

And the 1DsII has been beaten for low-ISO; I own one. You just have to compare equal sensor size crops, not 100% crops, and you'll find it's ~equal but not quite to the 5DII and behind the 1DsIII.

No shadow banding is the big one for the 1DsIII at high-ISO. Dxomark lets the 5DII and 7D off relatively lightly by penalizing random noise and pattern noise identically, despite the much greater propensity for the human eye to find pattern noise distracting and the inability of software solutions to reliably remove it. On large prints above ISO 800 I find the 5DII and 7D unacceptable in shadows because of it, whereas the 1DsII and III hold it off until ~6400.

Edit: of course, shooting Jpeg or not using NR the Digic IV in the 5DII gives it a massive advantage in the quality of in-camera NR.
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Dxomark aside..... this is the first that I heard the 1DS3 is cleaner at higher ISO than the 5DII.
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Actually, the 1DsIII has higher quality preamps and A/D circuitry that give it a decided edge on the 5DII. No shadow banding, slightly better SNR, better CFA array for color accuracy. Plus it has a thinner AA filter so you get less 'smearing'.

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cam...rand2%29/Canon can help you compared the SNR graphs.

And the 1DsII has been beaten for low-ISO; I own one. You just have to compare equal sensor size crops, not 100% crops, and you'll find it's ~equal but not quite to the 5DII and behind the 1DsIII.
Perhaps I'm mis-interpreting the graphs but the 5D2 shows a very slight edge in the following comparisons:

SNR, DR when ISO>~250, tonal range.

Interesting to hear that the 5D2 equals or slightly beats the 1DsII in low ISO. From what I understand there is shadow banding in the 1DsIII however takes more pushing in PP to visually show it.
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The 1DS3 is pretty noisy at ISO 3200, which is the max for the camera.

The photos I have seen from the 5D2 blow it away in that department.
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I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but you should not be shooting any weddings with just one camera body. If money is an issues, get 2 5D MKIIs or one and a 7D.
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