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Nov 30, 2009 12:19 |  #1

http://news.bbc.co.uk ...s/politics/8384972.​stm?lsexternal link

I hope we here in the US never get this bad..or stupid:(


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Nov 30, 2009 14:00 |  #2

sorry to inform you that we already have, especially where photography of children is concerned.

Every man with a camera at a youth soccer game or high school dance competition or just taking shots of his own kids at the park runs the risk of being accused of being a pediphile. A real Pediphile is proven guilty by court testimony and a body of evidence that might include child pornography or DNA proof of sexual activity. How you can prove your innocence on the spot with just the camera in your hand and the clothes on your back is beyond me. You are guilty until proven innocent, and proving your thoughts to be innocent is an impossibility.
I have a card saying I am considered a safe driver, I have a card saying I am trusted to return borrowed books to the library when I am done, do I really need a card saying I can be trusted to collect reflected light and not use the images obtained to do harm in any way?
maybe the sherrifs department could save some valuable manpower and time if they started issuing a trusted photographer card.
This human being is authorized to record the reflected photons from any object they see fit, and trusted to not be doing naughty things with them or using them to aid terrorist organizations.


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Nov 30, 2009 14:54 |  #3

birdfromboat wrote in post #9108963external link
maybe the sherrifs department could save some valuable manpower and time if they started issuing a trusted photographer card.

Don't know about your locale, but around here they are all way to busy generating revenue (parking tickets, massive traffic blockades for seat belt or city sticker enforcement, etc) to bother with such a card (or solving real crimes for that matter).

Unless they could charge you for it. :rolleyes:




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Dec 01, 2009 09:21 as a reply to mbellot's post |  #4

I thought the "Eastern Bloc" comment a bit left field..

I live in a "communist" country and I can photograph where and just about anyone I like without any fear of being harassed.. They get a bit narky though if you try to photograph police or military buildings..

BTW,,I've been trying to hang a frame or two on this really cute traffic cop ( think she' a trainee) on this intersection near the main shopping mall.. But everytime she sees me coming she ducks for cover ;)


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Dec 01, 2009 10:43 |  #5

yogestee wrote in post #9113877external link
I thought the "Eastern Bloc" comment a bit left field..

I live in a "communist" country and I can photograph where and just about anyone I like without any fear of being harassed.. They get a bit narky though if you try to photograph police or military buildings..

BTW,,I've been trying to hang a frame or two on this really cute traffic cop ( think she' a trainee) on this intersection near the main shopping mall.. But everytime she sees me coming she ducks for cover ;)

As for "Eastern Bloc", they are referring to Stalinism, not necessarily Marxism. The Iron Curtain was famous for its paranoid authoritarianism; French Indonesia doesn't have the kind of power that the USSR had at the top of the world, to worry about falling down to the Western powers.

In any case, if any government is good at one thing, it's being paranoid.


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Dec 01, 2009 10:55 as a reply to CAL Imagery's post |  #6

Nothing new at all unfortunately. We (press photographers) get assaulted by police, prevented from doing our jobs, held in areas with rioters, told we can't photograph this/that (when legally we can)...the only difference is that for once it's happened to a BBC guy.

We've all had to deal with it for years.

Example: http://www.epuk.org ...ee-accepts-met-settlementexternal link


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Dec 01, 2009 11:02 |  #7

What makes this story worse is actually the fact that the Police Constable and Police Support Officer in question are in fact probably contravening the Metropolitian Polices guidance as to photography in public areas http://www.met.police.​uk/about/photography.h​tmexternal link


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Dec 01, 2009 11:15 as a reply to neilwood32's post |  #8

Like a lot of places lately, the law doesnt seem to matter to the police when it comes to photography


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Dec 01, 2009 12:21 |  #9

neilwood32 wrote in post #9114416external link
What makes this story worse is actually the fact that the Police Constable and Police Support Officer in question are in fact probably contravening the Metropolitian Polices guidance as to photography in public areas http://www.met.police.​uk/about/photography.h​tmexternal link

Neil, unfortunately, if you've ever tried living by those guidelines or any other ACPO guidelines, you'll find that the PC's on the street rarely actually know what the guidelines are or are prepared to use them...as for PCSO's they should not be doing anything to do with Stop-and-Search or photographer guidelines...that's not what they're supposed to be for...however, they are by far the worst for knowing what they should or should not do.


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Dec 01, 2009 13:01 |  #10

Seems it's worse in the UK than in the USA. I wonder if this is affecting their tourism if people taking pics are being harassed by the police.


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Dec 01, 2009 13:42 as a reply to Tee Why's post |  #11

Its probably a good sign that people need to learn their rights.

Hell, it's just like any other law. The law will tell you or ask you to do things even if you dont HAVE to. Most people just comply because they dont know any better. Like being pulled over and consenting to search. Im sure most people find it easier just to say "okay ill stop taking pictures of this" and move on.

Im not ragging on officers or the law, Im just saying that if you dont know your rights you very well may be taken advantage of.

Do we have any basic law/rights for photography threads? im sure it would be very useful, and certainly prudent.


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Dec 01, 2009 16:04 |  #12

Photoform wrote in post #9115324external link
Its probably a good sign that people need to learn their rights.

Hell, it's just like any other law. The law will tell you or ask you to do things even if you dont HAVE to. Most people just comply because they dont know any better. Like being pulled over and consenting to search. Im sure most people find it easier just to say "okay ill stop taking pictures of this" and move on.

Im not ragging on officers or the law, Im just saying that if you dont know your rights you very well may be taken advantage of.

Do we have any basic law/rights for photography threads? im sure it would be very useful, and certainly prudent.

Just try it...I have 3 police cautions to show for that. I'll still do it as it's my livelihood...but i suppose i'll still end up clocking up the cautions for it


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Dec 01, 2009 17:41 |  #13

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #9114310external link
As for "Eastern Bloc", they are referring to Stalinism, not necessarily Marxism. The Iron Curtain was famous for its paranoid authoritarianism; French Indonesia doesn't have the kind of power that the USSR had at the top of the world, to worry about falling down to the Western powers.

In any case, if any government is good at one thing, it's being paranoid.

I think you mean French IndoChina ;)


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Dec 01, 2009 18:16 |  #14

yogestee wrote in post #9116993external link
I think you mean French IndoChina ;)

Hasn't been French Indochina since 1954...


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Dec 01, 2009 18:49 |  #15

JWright wrote in post #9117206external link
Hasn't been French Indochina since 1954...

Yep,, the French got chucked out on their ears..

That's why I added a ;)


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