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kid007
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Mar 17, 2010 01:22 |  #1

Good Day People,

I am trying to save some money for another L. I currently have Sigma 18-200, Canon 50 F1.8 and canon 100-400 L + my kit lens ( which I have not used for a while now).

Should I get a 28-70 F2.8 L or a 24-105 F4 L ? The reason behind this is that i feel the Sigma lets me down at low lights, especially @family functions (indoors). I was thinking, may be I should get the 24-105 L, then I would have 100-400 in L too. what do you people think ?

Thanks in advance.

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Mar 17, 2010 01:28 |  #2

since you are indoors and your subjects will most likely be moving a lot, you'll probably be needing the extra light capability (the f2.8). although the 24-105 has is... it doesn't help to stop the action, it just means you can handhold at a lower shutter speed.


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Mar 17, 2010 01:34 |  #3

^ Exactly why I chose the 24-70 2.8 over the other one. Low light action photography. But be prepared, they don't call it "the brick" for nothing. Its heavier and larger than the 24-105 f4. The IS will help us you're shooting static subjects, but if they're moving, then the faster 2.8 is the way to go.


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Mar 17, 2010 01:43 |  #4

I am sure the 24-70 is "lighter" than the bazooka 100-400..!!


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Mar 17, 2010 01:48 |  #5

kid007 wrote in post #9812825external link
I am sure the 24-70 is "lighter" than the bazooka 100-400..!!

It is, and when I owned the 28-70L I really didn't find it to be that heavy. Then again my most used lens is a super telephoto...

But in your position I would definitely go for the 28-70L for the extra stop of light. You'll appreciate it more than IS due to being able to better stop the movement of the subject with a higher shutter speed. You might also consider getting a Canon 35mm ƒ/2 or Sigma 30mm ƒ/1.4 as well so you have something even faster for when the 28-70L isn't fast enough.


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Mar 17, 2010 01:52 |  #6

I would go with the 24-105. The extra range is useful at indoor functions, where 70 sometimes seems restrictive. IS will help so often, on so many shots that it should not be underestimated. f/2.8 is only one stop brighter than f/4, but IS can give you a 3-stop advantage in camera-shake reduction. Also, f/2.8 has such shallow DOF that is not very useful for most indoor shots since the distance ratio of close to far objects and people will require a smaller aperture anyway. F 2.8 is nice for portraits and carefully-planned shots, but that is a special application for which a prime can inexpensively obtained with an f/1.8 or even 1.4. The IS and range of the 24-105 still makes it an ideal daily-use lens.

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Mar 17, 2010 01:59 |  #7

to throw in the equation, My current camera body is 1.6 crop. In the future I am looking at going FF. So if I get 28-70 now, What will happen when I go ff ? I cannot use my Sigma in FF. So when i do get the FF, i will have 28-70 (considersing that i buy this now rather than 24-105), 50 mm and 100-400; nothing between 70-100 ?

Cameramonger..will the IS be useful for low light and people movement ? Others seems to have different opinion ?

I hope to find some stash under my bed tonite..so that i can buy all the lenses I want; Reality.. I will wait for you guys to guide me on this.

Cheers and thanks again.


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Mar 17, 2010 02:18 |  #8

Sell the Sigma.
Get the EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS and the EF 70-200/4.
Worry about lens compatibility if and when you do change formats.

IS will help mitigate camera movement, keeping the optical path more stable relative to the world. It will not help to arrest subject movement - only a quick exposure will do that.




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Mar 17, 2010 02:19 |  #9

kid007 wrote in post #9812868external link
to throw in the equation, My current camera body is 1.6 crop. In the future I am looking at going FF. So if I get 28-70 now, What will happen when I go ff ? I cannot use my Sigma in FF. So when i do get the FF, i will have 28-70 (considersing that i buy this now rather than 24-105), 50 mm and 100-400; nothing between 70-100 ?

Cameramonger..will the IS be useful for low light and people movement ? Others seems to have different opinion ?

I hope to find some stash under my bed tonite..so that i can buy all the lenses I want; Reality.. I will wait for you guys to guide me on this.

Cheers and thanks again.

Honestly I don't think that the gap between 70mm and 100mm will be that bothersome. Perhaps get an 85mm ƒ/1.8 if you find 70mm too short and 100mm too long, but otherwise I wouldn't bother with it. As for IS, it will not stop subject movement, only camera shake, for portraits I would rather have an extra stop of light over IS.

Contrary to what Camera monger stated, I did not find the Canon 28-70L to have too shallow of depth of field when I owned it. I used ƒ/2.8 for general shots and found it to have plenty of depth of field for what I needed. Obviously if you're photographing multiple subjects you'll want to keep them near the same distance from the camera to be in focus.


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Mar 18, 2010 23:19 |  #10

Thanks Guys.

I am leaning towards 24-70. I might look at the Tamron one too.

Cheers.


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Jun 08, 2010 22:16 |  #11

Hello People,
Revisiting the tread.

From the last thread, I have one more lens to my kit. It is the Canon 100 L macro ( as a gift). In a months time, I am to do a small family function (pretty much like a wedding, but not exactly the same; an Indian Function). It will be indoors and for sure heigh ceilings; and yes the celing wont be in white not the walls. I will be travelling to attent the function, and hence cant carry many. So I am thinking, i should take my Siggy 18-200 OS , Canon 50 mm 1.8 and the Maco lens. The trouble is, without the option to bounce, what am I to do ? Direct flash ??

Cheers Guys.


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