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Old 20th of April 2010 (Tue)   #1
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Default Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

"Anssi Vanjoki, while delivering a speech in Helsinki, told an audience that camera phones will soon rival professional cameras. Nokia will “revolutionise the market”, and heavy lenses will no longer be needed. All this is expected to happen in the “very near future”..."

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/04/20...12-months.html

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Obviously physics and photography basics is something that fellow failed in executive training camp. My N900 delivers images in about 1/5th quality of Canon G1's which I used 10 years ago.
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Old 20th of April 2010 (Tue)   #2
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

I hope it is true. I would love to have all the function of my current kit in a pocket sized camera phone.

Of course I certainly don't beleive it.....
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

"Very near future.."

Could there be a more vague statement?
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

Usually I'm optimistic when it comes to advancements in science and technology, but I'm not buying this. I guess the expression "very near future" is rather subjective in this case.

However, I think the image quality produced by camera phones could benefit from slightly larger sensors, whether this would require some drastic changes or not. So to some extent, they may close the gap to the larger cameras.

Then again, the size of DSLRs may also shrink slightly (and the shape of the bodies may also change), if it becomes possible to get rid of the mirror, without compromises. Though, this also belongs to the "sometime in the future"-category, and it would only affect the size of the camera body, not the weight/size of the detachable lenses.
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

I think tech will reach a point where quality will be fine in small devices

BUT

There are some creative choices that will not be availalbe and some ergonomic fallouts from such devices.

These two come to mind, perhaps there are more

* Out of focus areas, photoshoping this effect is not fun
* Additional light for creative effect, ever carry a 580EX atop a cell phone? Hand cramps.
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Holy crap they've figured out how to bend the laws of physics so we don't have to worry about diffraction and let us get bokeh out of those tiny camera phone lenses.
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

I'd like to see them compare the images from a camera phone to one from the 300L on a 1D mark IV and then we'll see what this guy has to say
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MIcroscopic 4/3's haha. It is pretty crazy if you think about the advancements in camera phones. I mean the standard these days is at least 3.2MP. But of course they will only produce the best results in the most perfect conditions.

Who knows. I wouldnt be suprised if we see a 10MP camera phone here in the next two years
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Imagine a phone that had a EF mount on the rear. wishful thinking.
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They will just crank up the MP & call it good.
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

"Heavy Lenses" have not been needed for decades. However they fail to mention they need better sensors. And I doubt we will see a decient sensor in a phone in the "very near future"
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

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Imagine a phone that had a EF mount on the rear. wishful thinking.
Perhaps an 80's cell photo with modern internals and an EF mount?

The brick's name will be revoked and placed on this new monstrosity.
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

He might be on to something if "rivaling professional cameras" is for facebook only and "very near future" is relative to the length man has been on this planet rather than the length digital cameras have.
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Default Re: Nokia: camera phones will soon rival professional cameras

I am pretty sure that he will find enough free-cool-in 14 y.o. douchebags who will understand "having the same amount of megapixels"as "rivalling" and show off in front of their classmates playing the "me haz mor megapixelz, me be da bigga gangzta" game, however I don´t think that someone who passed the high school will buy it...
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I am pretty sure that he will find enough free-cool-in 14 y.o. douchebags who will understand "having the same amount of megapixels"as "rivalling" and show off in front of their classmates playing the "me haz mor megapixelz, me be da bigga gangzta" game, however I don´t think that someone who passed the high school will buy it...
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