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May 18, 2010 20:38 |  #1

So I have been reading some stuff on off camera flash, and I am ready to try and dabble in it a bit. Just dip my toes in the water so to speak. I am working with a 30D and 430EX II. I was looking at some guys blog about off camera flash and the difference is amazing. He shows a straight on flash, them moves the camera off to the side only 1 foot, and the difference is crazy.

Then I was looking around here and say this: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=653964

Now I am really inspired. My question is, is there a cable longer than 3 feet like canon sells? The difference of just one foot off the camera was amazing, but will 3 feet be enough? I have seen the radiopoppers and such, but I am not ready to spend that kind of money yet. I need the cable to be able to do ettl because Im not ready to try manual flash yet, and i do not need anything real flashy (pun intended) because when I am ready, if I even like playing with off camera flash, I will upgrade/get more lights ect. I will probably try playing with a soft box, but first step is getting the flash off the camera. So do you guys and gals know of any cables that will allow ettl II longer than 3 feet, or do you think I will be able to play around well enough on 3 feet?

Yes, it is impossible for me not to write 9 paragraphs on the most simple question:D


Happy shooting! Joe

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May 18, 2010 20:50 |  #2

Check out www.flashzebra.com (external link) and you'll find cables as long as 22' if you want them.


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May 19, 2010 08:45 |  #3

sdipirro wrote in post #10206114 (external link)
Check out www.flashzebra.com (external link) and you'll find cables as long as 22' if you want them.

Thanks for that link. I've been looking for the same thing as Joe. Very helpful.




  
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May 19, 2010 09:04 |  #4

I use a 3m (10ft) Yongnuo TTL cable and it works very well, bought it about 6 months ago:
http://cgi.ebay.com …ories&hash=item​4ce9cf72da (external link)

If you need a longer cable they also have a 10m (33ft) cable:
http://cgi.ebay.com …ories&hash=item​35a639043c (external link)


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May 19, 2010 13:38 |  #5

algold wrote in post #10208994 (external link)
I use a 3m (10ft) Yongnuo TTL cable and it works very well, bought it about 6 months ago:
http://cgi.ebay.com …ories&hash=item​4ce9cf72da (external link)

If you need a longer cable they also have a 10m (33ft) cable:
http://cgi.ebay.com …ories&hash=item​35a639043c (external link)

Any reason not to just buy the longest cable you can find so you have the length if you need it? Does the signal degrade over long lengths or something like that? I don't particularly like the coiled cord. I wonder if they have the 33ft. in a straight version.




  
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May 19, 2010 14:01 as a reply to  @ bruhnf's post |  #6

Buy a cheap short one and splice in cat5 jacks - then you can have whatever length you want by using a cat5 cable between the jacks


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May 19, 2010 14:54 |  #7

algold wrote in post #10208994 (external link)
If you need a longer cable they also have a 10m (33ft) cable:
http://cgi.ebay.com …ories&hash=item​35a639043c (external link)

i bought this one as i found it on ebay uk £25 all in.


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May 19, 2010 15:06 |  #8

Awesome! I really like the ones at zebra flash because they are not coiled. I just wish they had a "user rating" on the products. Do any of you own the cords they are selling, and if so, do they seem to work consistantly. That was the only problem with some of the other non Canon brands i saw elswhere, but they were only the 3 ft cables anyway.

I also like the cat5 idea. Good advice.


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May 19, 2010 16:15 |  #9

Joect541 wrote in post #10211073 (external link)
Awesome! I really like the ones at zebra flash because they are not coiled. I just wish they had a "user rating" on the products. Do any of you own the cords they are selling, and if so, do they seem to work consistantly. That was the only problem with some of the other non Canon brands i saw elswhere, but they were only the 3 ft cables anyway.

I also like the cat5 idea. Good advice.

Hi
I had the very same problem you have. I wanted a cheaper option for off-camera flash to practice, until i make a decision and save money for pocket wizards or radio poppers.

So I ended up buying the 16ft cable from flash zebra. I don't know how others' experience was, but the delivery was fairly quick and the customer service was great. I believe Lon (or was it Ron?) from flashzebra comes on these forums from time to time as well.

I've been in the process of moving, and haven't been able to use the cable as much as i'd like to, but so far it seems to have no problems. Feels very durable. I expect it will work fine for me without any faults until my off camera flash goes completely wireless.

Hope this helps.


edit: forgot to add - i love that i'm able to retain e-ttl and high-speed sync with this :)



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May 19, 2010 16:24 |  #10

kayl wrote in post #10210720 (external link)
Buy a cheap short one and splice in cat5 jacks - then you can have whatever length you want by using a cat5 cable between the jacks

I would be interested in knowing what is the maximum length that you can extend the cable without effecting the TTL operation?

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May 19, 2010 17:33 |  #11

Nightmaresonwax - Thank you for your reply. That is just what I was looking for. I baby all of my stuff anyway, so as long as the product is a good build, I shouldnt have a problem keeping it that way. I just needed to know if it was. Thank you. I believe that is what I will be trying until I get up with the poppers or the bees later on.

Meade - I am wondering the same. I am probably going to go for the 22' cable since I am experimenting and would like to have as much (wired) freedom as possible without breaking the bank while I learn. You would think at some point the long cable run would effect the ettl. I would guess they would not make a cable longer than what would work, so making one longer than that might not be a bad idea as far as checking that out.

Also, how would you pop 2 speedlights at once. Say, a 580ex on the cable to the side and the 430ex on the camera and bounced. How would that work?


Happy shooting! Joe

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May 19, 2010 20:48 as a reply to  @ Joect541's post |  #12

Lon sells quality stuff on flashzebra.com, and his customer support is excellent. You'll find him on these forums from time to time too. While I don't have his ETTL cables, I have bought others...and other stuff from him as well. No problems with any of his stuff.


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May 19, 2010 22:06 |  #13

I bought some cheap eTTL cables but only had problems. Then got 16' one from flashzebra. It works like charm.


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May 20, 2010 00:54 |  #14

Joect541 wrote in post #10211959 (external link)
...Also, how would you pop 2 speedlights at once. Say, a 580ex on the cable to the side and the 430ex on the camera and bounced. How would that work?

Just use your 580ex as a remote master (either on camera, or with a TTL cable) and a 430ex as a slave, placing it where you want it.


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May 20, 2010 02:46 |  #15

Joect541 wrote in post #10211073 (external link)
Awesome! I really like the ones at zebra flash because they are not coiled. I just wish they had a "user rating" on the products. Do any of you own the cords they are selling, and if so, do they seem to work consistantly. That was the only problem with some of the other non Canon brands i saw elswhere, but they were only the 3 ft cables anyway.

I also like the cat5 idea. Good advice.

I have bought a ton of stuff from Lon (Flashzebra) - Everything just always works. Shop with confidence!


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