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Oct 28, 2010 08:42 |  #31

The aim of the thread was to try and encourage people to have a go at shooting the night sky, even if they don't own a telescope.

I'm not going to ban shots that were taken through a standard camera lens, even if the camera was piggy-backed on a scope, but I would ask posters of any such images to mention that they were taken with the aid of a tracking mount, so as not to give false hope/expectations to people without such kit.

p.s. I'm surprised we haven't had any star trail images yet.


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Oct 28, 2010 08:49 |  #32

Another one:

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Oct 28, 2010 08:54 |  #33

Sorarse wrote in post #11180719 (external link)
The aim of the thread was to try and encourage people to have a go at shooting the night sky, even if they don't own a telescope.

I'm not going to ban shots that were taken through a standard camera lens, even if the camera was piggy-backed on a scope, but I would ask posters of any such images to mention that they were taken with the aid of a tracking mount, so as not to give false hope/expectations to people without such kit.

p.s. I'm surprised we haven't had any star trail images yet.

don't speak too soon. I know they are crappy though, they are my first two attempts.

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Oct 28, 2010 08:55 |  #34

luigis wrote in post #11180763 (external link)
Another one:

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Nikon 14-24 F2.8 on 5dII, 10 stacked shots each 1 minute.

how do you have no star movement with exposures of 1 minutes?

Amazing photo!


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Oct 28, 2010 08:57 |  #35

real nice image luigis!!! I wish my sky is as dark as yours.


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Oct 28, 2010 09:52 |  #36

Sorarse wrote in post #11180719 (external link)
The aim of the thread was to try and encourage people to have a go at shooting the night sky, even if they don't own a telescope.

100% agree, I don't own a 'scope (yet), and have been documenting my endeavors in this thread Top 10 in 2010 to shoot (Astronomy, non telescope)

I'll post some of those "neat" captures into this thread, with lessons learned as sharing.

Frankly, I knew NOTHING 10 months ago and with lots of peoples help in this forum my knowledge of the night sky has increased, along with the re-awakening of my "awe" of our place in the universe. Something I had as a child, "lost" as an adult over the years, and now have re-gained it.


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Oct 28, 2010 10:34 |  #37

C.Michael wrote in post #11180787 (external link)
how do you have no star movement with exposures of 1 minutes?

Amazing photo!

the stars dont really move much in 1 min. the effect is just emphasized at longer focal legnths.. I'm sure that shot at 100% would show a the movement.

By the way, are photos stacked with DSS allowed?


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Oct 28, 2010 10:41 |  #38

ichigosa wrote in post #11181299 (external link)
the stars dont really move much in 1 min. the effect is just emphasized at longer focal legnths.. I'm sure that shot at 100% would show a the movement.

By the way, are photos stacked with DSS allowed?

The stars don't move because I was using the Astrotrac mount, it really works, it holds at 100% without any problem.At 1 minute even at 14mm the corners would show trails.


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Oct 28, 2010 10:43 |  #39

luigis wrote in post #11180763 (external link)
Another one:

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Nikon 14-24 F2.8 on 5dII, 10 stacked shots each 1 minute.

Luigis , this is a fantastic shot !! That lens seems to produce some great images . This is one shot you should increase in size and wall hang it and also you should send this to http://antwrp.gsfc.nas​a.gov/apod/astropix.ht​ml (external link)

a shot like this with the MW and the SMC and LMC is worthy of posting !




  
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Oct 28, 2010 10:56 |  #40

C.Michael wrote in post #11180787 (external link)
how do you have no star movement with exposures of 1 minutes?

Amazing photo!

14 - 24mm focal length, that's how. No exif to see what the fl used for this shot was, though.


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Oct 28, 2010 10:59 |  #41

Ty Ron, I was lucky to be south enough to get the LMC, SMC and the MW in the same frame.
The Nikon 14-24 is great for night shots I wonder how the Samyang 14mm F2.8 works for similar shots.


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Oct 28, 2010 11:06 |  #42

another moon and venus, but hey.

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Oct 28, 2010 11:15 |  #43

I wanna play!

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Oct 28, 2010 11:28 |  #44

Sorarse wrote in post #11180719 (external link)
The aim of the thread was to try and encourage people to have a go at shooting the night sky, even if they don't own a telescope.

I'm not going to ban shots that were taken through a standard camera lens, even if the camera was piggy-backed on a scope, but I would ask posters of any such images to mention that they were taken with the aid of a tracking mount, so as not to give false hope/expectations to people without such kit.

p.s. I'm surprised we haven't had any star trail images yet.

Thats really a good suggestion and i have really enjoyed images with camera/lens only equip . Like Badger and Luigis have some great images but most of all i wish i had their cameras and lens :D ! Meanwhile i have to stick to a XSi which properly used still produces some great images . Luigis equip cost more than my scope and all the accessories i have for it including my cameras and lens :eek: . But i'm sure he uses it professionally my guess .

I think it's the topic name and some comments made that may have been a little touchy for some here including me . When you interpret it the way you did in this post it sounds very acceptable but someone stated earlier " Yeah Who needs a telescope? " . Sounds like ppl with right camera and lens can do anything that someone with a telescope can do but thats very arguable cause a camera/lens on a tracking device or still tripod is still limited to a point . Same as different scopes and sizes are limited to their use also . Truth is there has really been very little moon images for example posted here that really can meet the qualities of a moon image taken with a telescope as to say just a lens . Can't remember who but someone here has posted a moon image taken with a Big-Ma 150-500.. and a tele added and it produce a fantastic image but my Sig 135-400mm APO only produces a fair image .

The whole purpose of the Astronomy section here at POTN is to make ppl aware of astronomy images also taken with a Canon camera and help ppl understand that cameras are not limited to daytime images or night time images with lots of light pollution around only . However where just a camera/lens is used what makes the big difference is you cannot observe the nightskies looking through a view finder or using live-view . You can't look at a distance galaxie and see any structure or detail . Maybe with a hugh lens that cost an arm and leg you might see the bright center of the Andromeda galaxie slightly or the brightest nebulaes like the Orion neb or the Lagoon M8 but not much detail at all .

Other words you cannot observe DeepSpace without some type of telescope . Just remember that all images that have been produced here since me and a few others like Steve (Nighthound) help get this section started , we have already done all these images in the past that new imagers here are doing now , just some have better equip than what we started with or have now . And i don't think anyone will disagree that this is an exciting section of different images that most ppl enjoy some way or other and thats why i agree with you about posting pictures here without a telescope use . I'd like to see some good night time horizon shots taken just after sunset also . They make great shots as long as they don't look like daytime shots :( . Like this one below and with this i'll quieten down :oops: .




  
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Oct 28, 2010 11:49 |  #45

Nice shot, Ron!


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