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If ancient 30D is still good enough for National Geographic why upgrade your camera?

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Nov 03, 2010 12:49 |  #1

Here’s an inspirational story for all 30D users and any user of older bodies!!!!
I am a mere office drone by day. However, on weekends and vacations I morph in to a photo-enthusiast armed with my ancient Canon 30D and assorted 'L' lenses. I use my Flickr account to share my experiences with others. I must say being with Flickr has been a great experience for me. Why?
Allow me to explain....
I took the photo of the Easter Island moai below while on vacation 2 years ago with an 'ancient' 8.2 megapixel Canon 30D and 24 -70 L.

IMAGE LINK: …s/phil_marion/3​341866182/  (external link)
moai of Easter Island (external link) by Phil Marion (external link), on Flickr

Well imagine my surprise when I was contacted by National Geographic magazine to use it in the Archaeology section of the November 2010 International (not North American) English print magazine edition. So while all you in England/Europe/Austral​ia can view it in the local NG magazine, my family/friends here in Canada/US don't see it in our edition.
The image was licensed for internet use as well and appears in an article on their blogosphere. …1/easter-island-hats.html (external link)

How did they find me? I didn’t submit anything. They actually saw my photo in Flickr and contacted me through Flickr. So keep sharing your photos online and who knows? Maybe you'll get a request from National Geographic to use one of your photos.
So the ol’ 30D is still good enough for one of the most venerable photo magazines around. The 8.2 megapixels is enough. It’s not the camera, it’s more so the lenses - and maybe the user has some impact

So what's the moral of the story? If you have an 'ancient' 30D (or any body) and are thinking of upgrading you may be better off spending your money on upgrading your lenses. I find that people here are far too quick to upgrade bodies when better lenses are probably the better route to go. I've seen people who have done 4 major body upgrades yet who still use the kits lens!! Ignore the marketing wars for megapixels and/or focus point numbers. Buy better glass first - unless you're doing a photographic task that your current body can't handle (i.e. require faster focus and increased frames/second for sports or need improved low ligh/high ISO performance).

The body, though important, merely holds the sensor - I think the glass, the quality of light and the person behind the camera (the 'vision') is more important (sorry if that sounds conceited to some).

A photo I took HERE published in National GeographicTime on your hands? Then HERE'S plenty more photos to nibble on (external link):
http://https …photos/phil_mar​ion/albums (external link)

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Nov 03, 2010 12:55 |  #2

Congrats! There are folks here who know that the brain is the most powerful creative tool possessed by a photographer.

NatGeo is still a "multi-media" publication. If an image from a 30D fits the bill, they'll use it. If it's a watercolor painting, a pencil sketch or crayon on napkin and it enhances or amplifies a story, they'll use it.

Well Done!

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Nov 03, 2010 13:20 |  #3

Congrats! I hope they payed you fairly and you didn't give it away for the prestige of being published! Edit: Hope I wasn't too harsh with that statement.

Congrats again!


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Nov 03, 2010 14:52 as a reply to  @ Johnny V's post |  #4

Congratulations and well done.

What next - we might even have people with 20Ds getting into print. :lol:

David :)


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Nov 03, 2010 15:48 |  #5

I still have my 20, and 30D, and yes, they still can do great job... thats why Im keeping them...

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Nov 03, 2010 15:52 |  #6

Congratulations. Nice pictures. Yes, 8 mp is plenty for most of the work pro's do. I know somebody who still works with a 6 mp Nikon and they work for a major publisher. Just goes to show size really doesn't matter when it comes to magazine work.

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Nov 03, 2010 16:29 as a reply to  @ Jon_Doh's post |  #7


Remember, Stressed spelled backward is Desserts.:)
Suggestions welcome.
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Nov 03, 2010 17:28 |  #8
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Congrats on the publication. Old cameras can be the most fun sometimes.

I suck at Photoshop.

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Nov 03, 2010 17:37 |  #9


Your link is broken btw ;)

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Nov 03, 2010 19:13 |  #10

That's wonderful....a good bit of advice there...though most would say that the real advantages of newer models are mechanics/features, not so much resolution...
Especially if you shoot for all the frame and don't crop much, let alone pixel-peep

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Nov 03, 2010 19:19 |  #11

That's awesome, but the subjects you photographed aren't very animated.

I happen to know for a fact that there are people on Easter Island who are much more photogenic than those three guys.

PM me if you need any photography advice.


You know I kid. I think Easter Island is a fascinating story, and your pictures are great.

Rent and watch Rapa Nui. It'll blow your mind.

Thank you. bw!

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Nov 03, 2010 20:23 |  #12

Congrats! I loved my 30Ds and only switching to a 1D because I relized that by selling a bunch of gear I never used I could pay for one.

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Nov 03, 2010 21:08 |  #13

I still have my 30D. Not selling it:)

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Nov 03, 2010 21:38 |  #14

Tell me they pay you, please????? :

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Nov 03, 2010 21:41 |  #15

Oh...and nice photo! (external link)
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