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mladams
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Nov 08, 2010 11:59 |  #1

Has anyone here heard of or used a mirror lens? It interested me as I had not heard of them before and was curious of a few things. Basically I see the pro's as such: cheaper and lighter. But what are the drawbacks? Is the image soft, no autofocus, any issues you could see?

Just curious, and if anyone has pictures they've taken with this kind of lens that would be cool to.

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Nov 08, 2010 12:08 |  #2

Mirror lenses have fallen out of favor. Yes, light and cheaper but hard to hold still, perhaps hard to MF, only one aperutre and very odd bokeh. Look elsewhere.


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Nov 08, 2010 12:40 |  #3

I used a mirror lens in Africa where I had a LOT of light. (1/1000, f8, iso 64). Good in their day, and certainly better than carrying round a standard 500mm lens of the day - 1986 - but I haven't seen one I'd use on a modern camera. There are so many other lenses out there that I'd go for before a mirror lens

Some info here: http://www.bobatkins.c​om …phy/tutorials/m​irror.html (external link)




  
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Nov 08, 2010 12:42 |  #4

Good information. I wasn't really considering buying one as much as I was interested in others experiences with them as I'd never heard of them until recently.


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Nov 08, 2010 12:48 |  #5

I have a Canon FD mount f/8 500mm mirror (photo below) that I adapted to EF mount (direct mount with no glass to degrade IQ). It's absolutely great for candid and covert work. The quality is excellent if you have enough light. This is a shot I took (when it was still an FD mount lens on my A-1) at the MTV awards show in NYC in 1987. This is a lousy resize of a scan of the 8 x 10 film print. This was hand-held in the dark theater. Daylight shots are extremely good. Yes, there are "better" lenses than a mirror, but also much more costly!

Now, who are the three participants?


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Nov 08, 2010 12:53 as a reply to  @ gasrocks's post |  #6

I love it .. probably the best walkaround lens for discrete candids ..
With new AF confirm chip AF is very easy, chips are really accurate to focus even for action..

some samples (FullHD size by clicking on the pictures)

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Some tests in zoo ...

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even for landscape

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So I would say that this 500F8 mirror lens was a perfect part of my best combo I ever took for a trip .. 24L1.4II+85L1.2II+500F​8 ... I could cover 100% of my needs and easy to carry (1 lens in each pocket and a R strap with the body and the third lens) ..

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5DMKII+1Dx 24L1.4II 85L1.2II 180L3.5 300F2.8nonIS TC2XII ..... Sigma14F2.8AFDG, Zuiko 500F/8 Reflex
http://myc-photos.eu (external link)

  
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Nov 08, 2010 14:19 |  #7

A major drawback IMO is the funky bokeh.

Newworld666 > I LOVE that monkey shot


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Nov 08, 2010 14:44 |  #8

Yes, you can get some impressive images from a mirror lens but, it is hard to do. I teach photography at all levels. I would not tell someone to get a mirror lens if they were only begniing or intermediate. Beware of the flood of cheap and poor quality mirror lenses out there as well.


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Nov 08, 2010 16:17 |  #9

gasrocks wrote in post #11247950 (external link)
Yes, you can get some impressive images from a mirror lens but, it is hard to do. I teach photography at all levels. I would not tell someone to get a mirror lens if they were only begniing or intermediate. Beware of the flood of cheap and poor quality mirror lenses out there as well.

+1

OP may also find this thread useful:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=858486


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Nov 08, 2010 16:19 |  #10

Out of curiosity, can anyone knowledgeable with mirror lenses recommend some good ones?


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Nov 08, 2010 18:23 |  #11

themadman wrote in post #11248477 (external link)
Out of curiosity, can anyone knowledgeable with mirror lenses recommend some good ones?

I use a Tamron 500/8 SP.
Great for the price ;)
Check the thread link I posted previously for samples.


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Nov 08, 2010 19:03 |  #12

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Now, who are the three participants?

Keith Richards (although it looks a tad like Ronnie Wood), Tina Turner and Eric Clapton..

Do I get the lucky door prize??


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Nov 08, 2010 19:06 |  #13

yogestee wrote in post #11249433 (external link)
Keith Richards (although it looks a tad like Ronnie Wood), Tina Turner and Eric Clapton..

Do I get the lucky door prize??

You sure do! You should receive your check in the mail tomorrow. I sent it by FedEx, and the tracking number is


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Nov 08, 2010 19:16 |  #14

richardfox wrote in post #11249447 (external link)
You sure do! You should receive your check in the mail tomorrow. I sent it by FedEx, and the tracking number is

Cheers mate:D


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Nov 08, 2010 20:53 |  #15

yogestee wrote in post #11249433 (external link)
Keith Richards (although it looks a tad like Ronnie Wood), Tina Turner and Eric Clapton.

Here (external link)they even move and sound!


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