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Will they work?

I have a 420EX flash and am contemplating getting the PW. Are they compatible?
I have no luck fiding information about it on the net.

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short answer: yes

PW makes many receivers/transmitters - you might want to specify which one you're thinking of getting

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I have no clue whether they are compatible, just wanted to say hello to a fellow Hoosier photog!

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aaron.dunlap wrote in post #11376857external link
I have no clue whether they are compatible, just wanted to say hello to a fellow Hoosier photog!

Hi, I'm from Bloomington. ;-)a

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SMP_Homer wrote in post #11376849external link
short answer: yes

PW makes many receivers/transmitters - you might want to specify which one you're thinking of getting


I really don't know. I guess the one that would work with my flash. ;-)a
Do you know which one that would be?

I'm just starting to learn about light setups.

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heksa wrote in post #11376810external link
Will they work?

I have a 420EX flash and am contemplating getting the PW. Are they compatible?
I have no luck fiding information about it on the net.

Even if they work, the 420EX has no manual controls. How will you control the flash output?

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msowsun wrote in post #11376973external link
Even if they work, the 420EX has no manual controls. How will you control the flash output?

See, that's why I'm asking.

So in order to make a simple Speedlite set up off camera, I need to get at least 430EX?

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Yes, the 430EX, 430EX II, 550EX, 580EX, and 580EX II all have manual controls.

This article by Bob Atkins describes some of the differences with these Canon flashes.

http://www.bobatkins.c​om ...eosfaq/ex_speedlite​s.htmlexternal link

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heksa wrote in post #11377407external link
See, that's why I'm asking.

So in order to make a simple Speedlite set up off camera, I need to get at least 430EX?

Not necessarily... Take a look at the various Yongnuo models.

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Pocket Wizard MiniTT1 on camera with the 420EX on a remote Pocket Wizard TT5. Add in the Pocket Wizard AC3 at $70 and you are set.

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ps... without the AC3 zonecontroller, your 420EX will be limited to TTL. With the AC3, you will have manual control +3 and -3 stops.

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If you use the ETTL capable PW flex system then yes it will work. If you are thinking about the old PW II's then no it wont. The 420ex requires ettl for auto exposure so no manual controls.

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additional ps... Pocket Wizards like the Canon 430EX II best. The flagship 580EX II has RF interference issues that the 430EX II does not. Read up on the 580 and 430 before you make your decision. I can't speak to the Yongnuo flashes because I've never had one. I do have the 580 and the older 420 and I use them with PW TT1, TT5s and AC3.

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OP, I would check out the strobist blog. Their 101 series covers just about everything you need to know about using small flash units off camera:

http://strobist.blogsp​ot.com/2006/03/lightin​g-101.htmlexternal link

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heksa wrote in post #11377407external link
See, that's why I'm asking.

So in order to make a simple Speedlite set up off camera, I need to get at least 430EX?

I have a Sigma EF-500 DG Super. It has manual controls and flash output is adjustable down to 1/128. I have used the Skyports and Cybersyncs and they both fire it.

Also, the Canon 540EZ is another great choice for off camera usage. Same controls as the Sigma, but you can also connect a battery packexternal link such as the one flashzebra sells. Both of the speedlights mentioned have the feature that you can set to not go to sleep after a little while of inactivity. That is a must. This is not true of the Canon 430EZ. It can't be set to stay awake.

Note: the 430 and 540EZ models were designed for use in the early days and they are not compatible with today's digital cameras.

Here is an exampleexternal link of my 540EZ in action at a basketball game. Skyport receiver, hot shoe flash adapter, Battery 1 battery pack, super clamp on the hand rail of the balcony.

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