Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Read More.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses
Thread started 02 Dec 2010 (Thursday) 23:13
Prev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

70-200f/2.8IS mk2 bokeh inferior to mk1??? hmm

 
AlanU
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Dec 02, 2010 23:13 |  #1

I've seen some people mentioning that their beloved 70-200 f/2.8IS mk2 has the same bokeh to mk1......i say NOT.

Yesterday I did some tests in my neighbourhood using my 5dmk2, 70-200 mk2 and a combination of ambient only and some fill flash.

I will say I am extremely happy with the insane sharpness/contrast wideopen with the mk2. However I am still extremely pleased with my former mk1.

I wont justify my $$beans$$ buying this lens. I am merely stating that with my experience with both version I will say mk1 ALWAYS had creamy bokeh regardless of contrast in the background.

When the background has little clutter the bokeh of mk2 is CREAMY/DREAMY but unfortunately I wont say that with many photos with a busy background.

I'm not nit picking just telling my views on the bokeh. In this photo this photo exhibits an interesting bokeh pattern.

IMAGE NOT FOUND IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Byte size: ZERO


However in this photo the bokeh is dreamy

IMAGE NOT FOUND IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Byte size: ZERO


This white lens is simply a tool. I love the versatility aswell as the ridiculous sharpness at f/2.8 wideopen. Shot after shot the accuracy was absolutely accurate and targeted quickly. Regardless of the "sharper" bokeh of the mk2 I still think its pleasing for the most part.

5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)
bobbyz
Cream of the Crop
18,541 posts
Joined Nov 2007
Bay Area, CA
Dec 02, 2010 23:24 |  #2

Here are some of mine from the weekend using ver II.

#1

IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/s10/v16/p90965088-5.jpg

#2
IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/s1/v19/p575631537-5.jpg

#3
IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/s8/v12/p293572492-5.jpg

5dmk3, 35L, 85L II, 300mm f2.8 IS I, 400mm f5.6
Fuji XT-1, 14mm f2.8, 23mm f1.4, 35mm f1.4, 56mm f1.2, 90mm f2, 50-140mm f2.8

LOG IN TO REPLY
twoshadows
Liquid Nitrogen
twoshadows's Avatar
Joined Jul 2007
Sinning in paradise
Dec 02, 2010 23:27 |  #3

Nice work, Bobby. Love the last one.


Miss Julian Grey
xgender.net (external link)
I'm non-binary - please refer to me as she/her

LOG IN TO REPLY
Marloon
Goldmember
4,323 posts
Joined May 2008
Vancouver, BC.
Dec 02, 2010 23:30 |  #4

it's definitely weird how the bokeh is sharp as well. LOL


I'm MARLON

Former Canon Platinum CPS member

5DII • 24L • 35L • 50L • 85L • 135L • 200LIS

Wordpress Blogexternal linkYoutube Channelexternal linkTwitterexternal linkGear Listexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
yogestee
"my posts can be a little colourful"
yogestee's Avatar
13,845 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Joined Dec 2007
Australia
Dec 02, 2010 23:33 as a reply to twoshadows's post |  #5

To make an accurate comparision of bokeh between lenses and cameras you need to have the same focal length, aperture and camera to subject distance..


Jurgen
50D~700D~EOS M~G11~S95~GoPro Hero4 Silver
http://www.pbase.com/j​urgentreue (external link)
The Title Fairy,, off with her head!!

LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Dec 02, 2010 23:34 |  #6

yo bobby what lighting did you use?? ambient only?

#3 has a tighter crop above her head.....hey you stealin my thread LOL!!!

Seriously the mk2 has sharper bokeh. Marlon has mentioned to me he's noticed the 24L exhibits a more pleasing bokeh vs the sharper bokeh of mk2.

This seems similar to the 70-200 mk1 vs mk2.

Most people/clients are not as critical.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Dec 02, 2010 23:34 |  #7

yogestee wrote in post #11386615external link
To make an accurate comparision of bokeh between lenses and cameras you need to have the same focal length, aperture and camera to subject distance..

yes no doubt. However I can look at all of my mk1 pics and I dont have sharp bokeh.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
yogestee
"my posts can be a little colourful"
yogestee's Avatar
13,845 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Joined Dec 2007
Australia
Dec 02, 2010 23:45 as a reply to AlanU's post |  #8

Please define "sharp bokeh"??

Bokeh is the term ued to describe the quality not quantity of background blur.. It's also very subjective..To have sharp background blur is physically impossible..


Jurgen
50D~700D~EOS M~G11~S95~GoPro Hero4 Silver
http://www.pbase.com/j​urgentreue (external link)
The Title Fairy,, off with her head!!

LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Dec 02, 2010 23:49 |  #9

yogestee wrote in post #11386651external link
Please define "sharp bokeh"??

Bokeh is the term ued to describe the quality not quantity of background blur.. It's also very subjective..To have sharp background blur is physically impossible..

please look at the father and son pic. The house in the background is kinda odd. Besides technical jargon regarding bokeh I think the background is not as creamy/smooth.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
yogestee
"my posts can be a little colourful"
yogestee's Avatar
13,845 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Joined Dec 2007
Australia
Dec 02, 2010 23:57 |  #10

AlanU wrote in post #11386667external link
please look at the father and son pic. The house in the background is kinda odd. Besides technical jargon regarding bokeh I think the background is not as creamy/smooth.

Compared to what??


Jurgen
50D~700D~EOS M~G11~S95~GoPro Hero4 Silver
http://www.pbase.com/j​urgentreue (external link)
The Title Fairy,, off with her head!!

LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Dec 03, 2010 00:11 |  #11

yogestee wrote in post #11386687external link
Compared to what??

mk1


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
themadman
Cream of the Crop
themadman's Avatar
18,871 posts
Joined Nov 2009
Northern California
Dec 03, 2010 00:13 |  #12

Different distances from subject and different focal lengths will affect how the blur looks. Without the two lenses side by side with the same subject at the same distance at the same focal length, etc, you can't really make a judgment.


Will | WilliamLiuPhotography.​comexternal link | Gear List and Feedback | CPS Member | Have you Pre-Ordered Your 3Dx Yet? | HorusBennu Discussion | In honor of Uncle Steve, thanks for everything! 10-5-2011

LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Dec 03, 2010 00:27 |  #13

themadman wrote in post #11386745external link
Different distances from subject and different focal lengths will affect how the blur looks. Without the two lenses side by side with the same subject at the same distance at the same focal length, etc, you can't really make a judgment.

True enough. Perhaps if I have an abundance of time I'll test my mk1 (sold to friend) with the mk2.

I hope I'm just being overly critical.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
gasrocks
Cream of the Crop
gasrocks's Avatar
13,431 posts
Joined Mar 2005
Portage, Wisconsin USA
Dec 03, 2010 00:35 |  #14

Yes indeed. You need to test both lenses at the same time, same mm, same place, same aperture and compare. I'll bet bokehs are about the same for both versions.


GEAR LIST
_______________

LOG IN TO REPLY
bohdank
Cream of the Crop
bohdank's Avatar
14,060 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Montreal, Canada
Dec 03, 2010 06:51 |  #15

I think the difference is that the MKII is probably contrastier and has more saturated color. Backgrounds are not as "in the background".


Bohdan - I may be, and probably am, completely wrong.
Gear List

Montreal Concert, Event and Portrait Photographerexternal link
Flickrexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

3,255 views & 0 likes for this thread
70-200f/2.8IS mk2 bokeh inferior to mk1??? hmm
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses


Not a member yet? Click here to register to the forums.
Registered members get all the features: search, following threads, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, settings, view hosted photos, own reviews and more...


AAA

Send feedback to staff    •   Jump to forum...    •   Rules    •   Index    •   New posts    •   RTAT    •   'Best of'    •   Gallery    •   Gear    •   Reviews    •   Polls

COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Privacy policy and cookie usage info.

POWERED BY AMASS 1.4version 1.4
made in Finland
by Pekka Saarinen
for photography-on-the.net
Spent 0.00185 for 4 database queries.
PAGE COMPLETED IN 0.03s
Latest registered member is MaxamillianStudio
903 guests, 452 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6430, that happened on Dec 03, 2017