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kmilo
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Nov 15, 2017 10:24 |  #10936

smaeda wrote in post #18497043 (external link)
Sure, it's f2 but he is using wide angle lenses. The dof is much wider so you physically can't produce as much bokeh compared with a longer focal length at the same aperture.

I know, just would've guessed I'd see a little more blur.


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Nov 15, 2017 14:30 |  #10937

kmilo wrote in post #18496919 (external link)
Great set, Martin.

An observation ... it looks like the light is falling off very quickly from top to bottom. My un-calibrated and slightly dark monitor here at work isn't showing much if any detail in their black pants. Also, I'm surprised that the background isn't more out of focus shooting full frame at f/2. I would have expected that dappled sunlight to be a little more surreal looking ... not your fault, of course.

Again, these are excellent. Very well done.

Light fall off is quick on purpose, the modifier is huge and the power output is low (it's metering F1.8 or so, at 4~5 feet as a 5 foot modifier, so you know it's low power). The reason for that is to feather the light down on the subject, but without putting a big obvious spotlight on the ground at their feet where it's clear a flash was pointed down at them. I didn't pick the pants, they showed up in black felt-like matching leggings. Exposing those leggings (straight black) and near-white shirts, fair skin, etc, to expose those pants with the same light as their faces, you'd have to give up one or the other. I'm ok with losing some exposure on the pants. You can see they have legs. Face/eyes/hands are far more important. I've done a few where you can see the light exposure on the foreground in front of the subject, and don't care for it, too obvious. Just preference. But can't expose the black & white with the same level either way here with one light unless I feather light up (unnatural looking) so that light fall off happened on their skin and not their legs so that more exposure happened on the legs than the faces. But again, not going to do that, weird shadows in unnatural directions for me. But I'm not guru for this.

35mm on full frame is wide angle. Also, these are full body portraits. Also, distance of background to subject plays a lot into the appearance of blur. The background was only 8~12 feet away (see setup image) where the trees and stuff start up. If I did it with 50~100 feet of distance, they would be a blur. 35mm at F4, with a little distance, like 5~6 feet, you can nearly get the horizon in acceptable focus. It's wide angle on a large sensor. F1.4 and F2 at close proximity to subject (2~3 feet) with a distant background would have blurred more, but that's a head shot. These are full body group portraits at 4~5 feet, sometimes 6 feet to subject. I don't mind losing massive background blur, the 135L was with me that day, but I prefer to work close and not need 20~30 feet to do a group full body environmental shot. I generally include a lot of the environment in shots, and I don't want it to be totally unrecognizable to the people in the photos.

I have other shots from the session with a 23mm F2 (but shot at F2.8) on an APS-C sensor (Fuji X100S) and the depth of field is similar to what it would have been on my full frame and 35mm had I been at F4. Nearly in focus all the way. But again, these are wide angles.

I generally go to 85mm as a starting point for destroying backgrounds. I don't shoot anything between 35mm and 85mm though.

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Nov 29, 2017 18:50 |  #10938

I have been taking the family Christmas card photos for my friends. Usually we did the family one first and a few individual.
Here is one of the individual shots.

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Nov 30, 2017 10:21 |  #10939

Nice one. Usually I prefer to see the other arm and more light in the eyes. Next time I do some shots, I need to remember to do some behind the scenes.


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Dec 02, 2017 05:12 |  #10940

Quick setup in the backyard

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Canon 5Ds R | 16-35 4L IS | 24-105 4L IS | 70-200 4L IS | 100-400 4.5-5.6L IS ii | 14 2.8 Samy | 35 1.4 Art | 85 1.8 | 135 2L | EXT 1.4X II | AD200 | V860ii-C | 2x TT600

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Dec 06, 2017 09:53 |  #10941

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Dec 06, 2017 10:11 as a reply to DThriller's post |  #10942

DThriller those are beautiful.


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Dec 06, 2017 10:15 as a reply to DThriller's post |  #10943

Beautiful shots. Is the BG lit just from ambient?


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Dec 06, 2017 10:24 as a reply to Najo's post |  #10944

it looks like there is a second light behind the pole for the BG


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Dec 06, 2017 10:39 |  #10945

Najo wrote in post #18511884 (external link)
Beautiful shots. Is the BG lit just from ambient?

Ah! good eye!


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Dec 06, 2017 11:39 |  #10946

Yep just a 20° grid


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Dec 12, 2017 10:55 |  #10947

Im so backlogged with posting my setup shots

Sorry for posting so much I just love this thread

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Dec 12, 2017 12:06 |  #10948

it snowed this past weekend. It didn't snow a lot, but it was freezing outside. I managed to get the kids out for a few minutes, but only for a few minutes.

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Dec 12, 2017 12:37 |  #10949

PLLphotography wrote in post #18516194 (external link)
it snowed this past weekend. It didn't snow a lot, but it was freezing outside. I managed to get the kids out for a few minutes, but only for a few minutes.

Fuji XPro 2
XF 50-140mm f/2.8 lens @ f/5.6
Streaklight 360 at full power in a 32" softbox.

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That's just wonderful, Phillip ! :-D


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Dec 12, 2017 13:18 as a reply to hammer418's post |  #10950

Thanks :)

In hindsight I should have put the softbox closer, but it was in the 20's and the kids were freezing lol.


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