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Apr 17, 2010 19:12 |  #1

Friday was a great day...I picked up a 50mm f/1.8 Mk. 1 and what I thought was an awesome find...a 28mm f/2.8 for $200. I decided to shoot with the 28 for the day and drove around testing it out. I had my T1i on Program Mode the whole day and thought I was getting some great shots....that was until I uploaded them to my computer! I feel like the image is blurry, even in the areas I focus on. Check these out...I really think I have a bad copy. What do you think? I really want to use this lens indoors shooting live bands...I am going to test it out doing that tonight..but so far..I am not impressed.

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Apr 17, 2010 19:16 |  #2

What's wrong?


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Apr 17, 2010 19:19 |  #3

Orangegsx wrote in post #10014466 (external link)
What's wrong?

Sorry....I just realized that I didn't state my problem.


I feel like the image is blurry, even in the areas I focus on.


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Apr 17, 2010 19:20 |  #4

According to your EXIF data, your shutter speeds are in the range of 0.033 s (1/30)

If you REALLY want to know if you're having focus issues or not, put it on a tripod and check. 1/30 is well within the possibility of it just being camera shake.

That being said...these don't actually look too bad.


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Apr 17, 2010 19:24 |  #5

for me it appears that #2 and #3 are back focusing and front focusing. #1 seems to be good and #4 seems to just be a slow shutter speed, on the T1i you should be using around 1/45 ish to get a sharp picture based on the 1/focal length rule


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Apr 17, 2010 19:24 |  #6

I think it is unlikely that BOTH lenses are bad, but you have clearly got soft results with both lenses. When this happens with more than one lens it is generally a user issue or a faulty camera, rather than faulty lenses.

are you using good focusing techniques and bracing the camera correctly while shooting?




  
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Apr 17, 2010 19:29 |  #7

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I think it is unlikely that BOTH lenses are bad, but you have clearly got soft results with both lenses. When this happens with more than one lens it is generally a user issue or a faulty camera, rather than faulty lenses.

are you using good focusing techniques and bracing the camera correctly while shooting?

I feel like I am. Of course I could be wrong. Is there something I should be doing differently when shooting with a fast prime? These are my first two ever.


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Apr 17, 2010 19:32 |  #8

your shutter speeds are too slow...causing subject motion blur...was the train moving?...if so 1/100 probably isn't fast enough to freeze the action...and 1/50, and 1/30 for the dog isn't going to stop it's movement...those little dogs always move fast...either open up the lens more, or bump up the ISO


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Apr 17, 2010 19:37 |  #9

DreDaze wrote in post #10014541 (external link)
your shutter speeds are too slow...causing subject motion blur...was the train moving?...if so 1/100 probably isn't fast enough to freeze the action...and 1/50, and 1/30 for the dog isn't going to stop it's movement...those little dogs always move fast...either open up the lens more, or bump up the ISO



So...instead of letting the camera decide in P mode....I should do a little thinking of my own? Ha! Just kidding I understand! I will try tonight when I shoot this band...any tips if I were just going to use these two lenses?


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Apr 17, 2010 19:45 |  #10

you can stay on P mode but just maybe lower the exposure compensation to a shutter speed that works.

or if you know your shutter speed is a problem then put it on Tv and let the camera decide on the aperture

or if you are gutsy then put it on M at the widest aperture and lowest acceptable shutter speed and hope that the pictures are decently exposed (the histogram can help you out here).

I'm not too sure about the focusing issue... are you using center focus point and then recomposing?


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Apr 17, 2010 19:56 |  #11

Go to Av mode, set to f3.2 to f3.5 (or f2.8 ), ISO 200 or 400, set EC to +1/3 and try those types of shots again.


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Apr 17, 2010 20:20 |  #12

This reminds me of what I personally do after buying used lenses.

My advise is to play with the lenses. Get to know how you can get good images from it. I don't have the 28mm but I would step down the 50mm to f/2.8 and you should see really sharp images from it. Don't test lenses wide open with these apertures because they're going to be softer than other apertures.

Also, eliminate extra variables, like tracking a moving train... It might be difficult to to test whether the lens is soft or if your body missed focus.

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Apr 17, 2010 20:22 |  #13

You don't need to be gutsy to shoot manual (M).

Put it in manual, set your aperture pretty wide, anywhere between f/2.8 to 3.5 and your ISO to a setting that will allow you to get a fast enough shutter speed of at least (1/focal length x 1.6 crop factor). There's nothing wrong with shooting at a far greater shutter speed too. Even still subjects can benefit from a fast shutter when you're hand holding. Just use the in camera meter to ascertain the 'correct' exposure.


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Apr 17, 2010 20:23 |  #14

jongrill wrote in post #10014558 (external link)
So...instead of letting the camera decide in P mode....I should do a little thinking of my own? Ha! Just kidding I understand! I will try tonight when I shoot this band...any tips if I were just going to use these two lenses?

it all depends on the movement of your subject...but i'd try and get a decently fast shutter...1/125, or 1/250 would probably work for a lot of things, as long as they're not too quick...i think 1/250 you'd be fine for a lot...to get there will all depend on the light available...i'd set the lens to f2.8...ISO @400...see where your shutter is at...if you're at like 1/30 or something crazy, you'll need to do some steps to get it higher...raise the ISO to 800 gives you 1/60...stop the lens down to f2 will give you 1/125...you'll have to adjust on the spot, but i'd use AV mode, and start at my suggestion, and see what you need to do to get an acceptable shutter speed...i'd try and mess around with them before seeing the band though

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Go to Av mode, set to f3.2 to f3.5 (or f2.8 ), ISO 200 or 400, set EC to +1/3 and try those types of shots again.

that'd work for the train...but wouldn't really help the others...


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Apr 17, 2010 20:25 |  #15

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Just use the in camera meter to ascertain the 'correct' exposure.

if you're doing that I'd forget M, and just put it in AV...it'll be easier, and give the same results...


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