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Apr 20, 2010 10:18 |  #1

I photograph for all our hunts here in SC and am wanting a better lens to Capture more scenery in our shots.........I am using a Rebel XSI and for our shots am using the stock 18-55 kit lens that came with the cam........it does great in good lighting and I'm not complaining about the lens in anyway just need something to bring out some more pop and wider shots with more scenery......I am thinking about a Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM Lens.

If anyone could help me out on any direction in the Lens I need to look into without breaking the bank it would be greatly appreciated........her​e is a couple of the shots from this year and what I am looking into improving on.......Thank's in Advance to all willing to help!!!

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Apr 20, 2010 10:31 |  #2

to spend $700 on a lens where you add 1mm on the wide end seems crazy to me. the 17-40 is a great UWA on a full frame camera, but I couldn't justify it as a general walkaround zoom on a crop.

do you have the 18-55 or the IS version?

more pop - do a little post processing
wider - not the 17-40. go with a Tokina 11-16 or a Sigma 10-20


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Apr 20, 2010 10:35 |  #3

These portraits are nice, hats are our enemy in bright light :O


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Apr 20, 2010 10:39 as a reply to  @ CosmoKid's post |  #4

Agree with CosmoKid. The Sigma 10-20mm or Canon 10-22mm are both great wide angle lenses. To save some money, you mind consider buying a gently used one too. :)


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Apr 20, 2010 10:39 |  #5

CosmoKid wrote in post #10030464 (external link)
do you have the 18-55 or the IS version?

Yes I have the IS version.




  
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Apr 20, 2010 10:55 |  #6

ccleroy wrote in post #10030511 (external link)
Yes I have the IS version.


its a very under rated lens, especially out doors. i will say again that i dont think spending $700 for an extra 1mm on the wide end is worth it. you are also sacrificing IS and with non moving subject the extra 3 stops will be worth it.

i just think you need to add a little pop in post and if you want wider, go really wide with a Canon/Sigma/Tokina Ultra Wide Angle. UWA will not do justice to people though.


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Apr 20, 2010 10:59 |  #7

If you intend to stick with a crop sensor camera body, I would recommend you consider the Canon 10-22.


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Apr 20, 2010 11:00 |  #8

18-55 IS is quite a good lens, especially for a kit. There is no good justification for upgrading to a 17-40mm lens when you loose distance on the long end and only gain 1mm on the wide end. For wide shots, I would recommend the Tokina 11-16mm. It will be great for big sweeping landscapes and it will also do well in lower light. Other options are the Canon 10-22mm, the Sigma 10-20mm and the Tamron 10-24mm. Those will not perform as well in low light.


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Apr 20, 2010 11:01 |  #9

CosmoKid wrote in post #10030621 (external link)
its a very under rated lens, especially out doors. i will say again that i dont think spending $700 for an extra 1mm on the wide end is worth it. you are also sacrificing IS and with non moving subject the extra 3 stops will be worth it.

i just think you need to add a little pop in post and if you want wider, go really wide with a Canon/Sigma/Tokina Ultra Wide Angle. UWA will not do justice to people though.


I appreciate your comments........and I agree it is a great lens especially to come stock........I reckon I need to do a little more research into Post Processing.......




  
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Apr 20, 2010 11:06 |  #10
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Get a UWA lens instead of 17-40, which makes it UWA on a full-frame. But on XSi - go for Sigma 10-20mm which is around $480 new or $380 used.


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Apr 20, 2010 14:36 |  #11

I appreciate everyone's input.......I will play around with some things PP and see if I can get the desired results and look into one of the lens's recommended........if anyone else has any tips please feel free to add them!!




  
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Apr 20, 2010 14:44 |  #12

you say wider...but i think just throwing something like the 50mm f1.8 into your bag would help...two of your shots were above 40mm...so say you take those same shots, but use a larger aperture, something like f2.8...set the person up in a spot where the background is farther away...and you'll get some nice subject isolation that'll make em "pop" a bit more


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Apr 20, 2010 17:00 |  #13

hey im guessing youre shooting on a crop so i'd probably get a 10-22. i love mine so much and wouldn't be able to leave home without it!


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Apr 20, 2010 17:17 |  #14

Ok, to summarize others' input: if you need a wider FL, ie. wish to capture more background, then a Tokina 11-16 F2.8 is your best option. Corner to corner sharpness even wide open @ F2.8 and great build quality. Second choices would be Canon 10-22, Tokina 12-24 F4, Sigma 10-20.

If you need more pop, than a fast prime comes to mind. On a crop body my first choice would be a Sigma 30 F1.4. If you prefer tighter, anything from Canon 50 F1.8 to Sigma 50 F1.4 and Canon F1.2 come to mind, depending on how much you're willing to spend. If you need even more FL the Canon 85 F1.8 is great. There is a Sigma 85 F1.4 in the works also. If you're willing to manual focus, there are quite a few capable lenses out there. The SMC Takumar 50 F1.4, the very inexpensive Helios 44-2 58 F2, the Jupiter-9 85 F2, the Zeiss Jena 135 F3.5 and Takumar 135 F3.5 would all be good and inexpensive choices for portrait work.

Good luck!


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Apr 20, 2010 17:19 as a reply to  @ jhu2's post |  #15

Are you finding you are needing wider than 18mm? With the examples posted, I'm thinking not. If you are not shooting a lot at 18mm now, or finding you are wanting even wider, I'm not convinced an UWA is the route to go. Yes, it will definitely get a lot more scenery, but if you intend to use it for the type of shots you posted, you are going to find you will certainly run into problems with perspective distortion as you'll have to be really close (like standing on the turkey's neck close) to your subject to get that same shot, and you can't correct that in post processing.

As was suggested before, a prime such as the 50 1.8 or maybe even a Sigma 30 1.4 could help. Also, your first shot was in the middle of the day where that type of lighting is going to wash out a lot. Picking up a circular polarizer can help those mid-day shots.


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