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Taking Family to Disney Land... New Toy?

 
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Apr 26, 2010 11:27 |  #16

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If there is sun (lately, that's not always been a given) then fill flash for strong shadows will be a help. Your 30mm will be more than adequate for fireworks if you are near them. There's a sticky in the forum on the best settings, I think. I usually shoot at two or three stops from wide open with a longer lens and set my shutter speed to capture the initial burst, others like a slower speed to get trailing streamers of light, but you need a tripod for that. Low ISO and manually focus at infinity should do the trick.

Your 1.4 tc will come in handy. They won't let you get very close to the animals and they are quite lethargic in daytime heat. Oh, yes, you will endure humidity. Dress light, use a sweatband and think about carrying lightweight plastic ponchos for cloudbursts (although if you wear them for long you'll be as soaked as if you didn't--but it does protect the camera).

The shots below were done handheld with a 5DM2, 85mm L f1.2 at f3.2 and 1/250s at ISO 800--all manual settings.

advaitin... nice pics!

thanks for the additional info... i was a bit concerned... i know it can be quite humid and hot in the summer...

as for shots of fireworks... i don't think i'll lug my tripod... but thanks tho...


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Apr 26, 2010 11:28 |  #17

I had a wonderful holiday in Disneyworld, Florida last year. For sure I would not go without the SLR; every time I go somewhere without the SLR, I regret it.

But here's a thought. Put the money into buying a waterproof point-and-shoot. There's lots of fun in the hotel swimming pools and the Disney water parks that you may want to document...

I posted a photo trip report here (external link); I don't claim it to be any work of genius but it may give you some idea of the kind of pictures that worked well for me.

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PS If I was to go for another lens for the SLR for Disneyworld, I'd be thinking about the 11-20mm (something like that) Sigma...


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Apr 26, 2010 11:34 |  #18

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So where can we see the video?

You know, I didn't use that feature until I had the thing for a year. I'm just no videographer. Maybe I'll try that with the 7D this 4th of July.

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advaitin... nice pics!

thanks for the additional info... i was a bit concerned... i know it can be quite humid and hot in the summer...

as for shots of fireworks... i don't think i'll lug my tripod... but thanks tho...

A tripod is what is usually recommended and low ISO, but I handheld at a medium high ISO. Either the 24-70 or 24-105 would do perfectly well at the 70-85 range using the same settings.


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Apr 26, 2010 11:39 |  #19

based on my experience.. I used the 24-105L a lot in Disney parks EXCEPT Animal Kingdom, you will need the extra reach of the 70-200


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Apr 26, 2010 11:40 |  #20

@alan_potter
wow... that is one HUGE trip log... and a TON of pics! hmm... waterproof cheap camera...

@advaitin
you're absolutely right... i'm sure there will be moments i'll miss a tripod... but i think i'll have to try to get along without it...

i think i'll have to go home and give my kit lens some more loving... see how i like taking wider shots...


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Apr 26, 2010 11:40 as a reply to  @ alan_potter's post |  #21

From my experience in several trips to Walt Disney World, most shots will be wide angle or normal. Here are some scenarios.

Close up-
Like the characters at a character meal when they are standing at your table.

Wide angle-
Many scenes outdoors in the parks and sometime indoors.

Normal-
Same as the wide angle.

Mild telephoto-
Shows in front of the castle.
When you need to zoom in a little, like when shooting a parade.

Long telephoto-
Usually on in Animal Kingdom on the Safari ride. Be aware, however, that the ride vehicle bounces a lot and focusing a long telephot lens is usually possible only when the vehicle stops briefly.

Fast lens, like a 1.8 or 1.4-
Night shots or indoor shots of moving subjects. The 'Festival of the Lion King' show is indoors in low light with moving performers- a real challenge.

External flash-
Not really all that useful except in certain indoor situations like restaurants. Flash is prohibited on many rides.

All in all- a good P&S is very practical at Walt Disney World.
For a DSLR keeping it light, by maybe using just a walk around zoom and a fast backup like an 85mm/1.8, might work. That equipment can get heavy as the day goes on.

Good luck.
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Apr 26, 2010 11:44 as a reply to  @ alan_potter's post |  #22

We went last November. While I didn't actually post many photos from it (never made a thread, but should), I took the 18-55 and 55-250. The 18-55 I used most of the time, and it produced some excellent images. I took ~1,700 photos over the course of the week. I shot in RAW, downloaded to my MacBook, and backed those up to an external HD before any processing with Aperture later at night. Though I did a lot with the photography, I never let it get in the way of our primary goal, our family vacation. :D

I brought the 430EX but didn't use it very much; I used the pop-up for a few photos. I also brought the tripod which I used for photographing fireworks at Epcot from our hotel room. Frankly when we go again I'd prefer to have a faster lens, but my 18-55 would still be the workhorse.


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Apr 26, 2010 11:45 as a reply to  @ post 10067991 |  #23

I took my family to disneyland few weeks ago (southern calf) and took two lens.

24-70 (used 90%)
16-35 (used 10%)

24-70 was the perfect lens and used 16-35 only a few times to give it a try.

Next time I will only take the 24-70 and one fast prime.




  
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Apr 26, 2010 11:48 |  #24

kmtyb wrote in post #10068151 (external link)
I took my family to disneyland few weeks ago (southern calf) and took two lens.

24-70 (used 90%)
16-35 (used 10%)

24-70 was the perfect lens and used 16-35 only a few times to give it a try.

Next time I will only take the 24-70 and one fast prime.

kmtyb, what body did you take?

an interesting point has been raised as to 24-70 being wide enough on my crop body... thoughts?


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Apr 26, 2010 11:49 |  #25

We go to WDW every year and I'll be the first on this thread to admit that I don't like taking my DSLR with me. First, we're out in the parks for at least 12 hours a day and I like to minimize what I carry, but secondly and more importantly I want to experience my family experiencing the experience and I don't do that as well when I'm trying to get the perfect shot. :)

My Tokina 12-24 is typically the only one I'll take into the parks on the rare occasion when I have a few shots in mind. Otherwise, it's a P&S. We're going in July and I'm going to take only my G-11.




  
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Apr 26, 2010 12:07 as a reply to  @ jenwales's post |  #26

While I can appreciate folks not wishing to spend a lot of time doing photography on a family vacation, here's what came out of it for us. I produced a book of our trip. :D Below are links to a couple posts I made on a photo book thread that show an example of what can be done.

Fwiw, the Yacht Club in the first post and the Castle and fireworks photos in the second post were all done with the 18-55mm kit lens.

https://photography-on-the.net …hp?p=9510878&po​stcount=24

https://photography-on-the.net …hp?p=9510893&po​stcount=25


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Apr 26, 2010 12:14 |  #27

Somewhat like was said before......

I used and only took my 50mm into the parks.....except at Animal Kingdom, then I used a Sigma 70-300 that I no longer own. Travel light if possible. I DID bring my 430EX to character dining to make sure I got good pics.

Oh oh oh...I mean...you absolutely need a 17-55 EFs f2.8 for Disney. It's practically the official lens of Disney for a cropper!!!!!!!!


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Apr 26, 2010 12:20 |  #28

mathogre wrote in post #10068293 (external link)
While I can appreciate folks not wishing to spend a lot of time doing photography on a family vacation, here's what came out of it for us. I produced a book of our trip. :D Below are links to a couple posts I made on a photo book thread that show an example of what can be done.

We made a book, too. About 50/50 SLR and P&S shots. Looks great and honestly for most of the shots it did not make a difference that we had the SLR. For example, the castle shot you showed in one of your links could easily have been done with a compact - sunny day, low ISO, deep DOF. Fireworks, maybe not. It's just like anything else, compromises. If you bring the SLR you might miss a few moments because the bigger kit is more cumbersome and if you bring the compact you might miss some lower light or action shots. Either way you should be able to make a great album of memories if you have even a little skill.

Nice book, btw. Looks great.


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Apr 26, 2010 12:25 |  #29

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We made a book, too. About 50/50 SLR and P&S shots. Looks great and honestly for most of the shots it did not make a difference that we had the SLR. For example, the castle shot you showed in one of your links could easily have been done with a compact - sunny day, low ISO, deep DOF. Fireworks, maybe not. It's just like anything else, compromises. If you bring the SLR you might miss a few moments because the bigger kit is more cumbersome and if you bring the compact you might miss some lower light or action shots. Either way you should be able to make a great album of memories if you have even a little skill.

Nice book, btw. Looks great.

Thank you! Actually we also brought the little Sony, and our book has some photos from that too, as well as some photos from some friends whom we met in Florida (they have a P&S also). You're right that a good P&S can produce photos that are fine for a book.


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I think all you need is the 24-105, and may be a tele - but your 70-200 is too heavy to carry at all times. A 1.4x TC would also help.
I wouldn't want to carry a flash as well. Just have fun!


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