Official: Canon 1D Mk IV

tharmsen wrote in post #10129426
What are you talking about? That's straight out of camera.

Thanks, glad you like it.

As nice as they look with the post processing. If they are straight out if camera I say sell that pos quick!

Zethar wrote in post #10133300
Here's one of a Tree Swallow -- love the iridescence of these little guys.

tree sparrow you got there.

Took a few test shots of a mate to test ISO on new 1D MK IV.....all taken with 85mm F1.2 L II at f1.2 - no post processing other than a small bit of unsharp mask.....well I am impressed so far !

ISO100

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Ok, the ones shot in a very dark room with minimal lighting

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Your last 5 shots are under exposed. And, are they heavy crops, because the noise looks pretty bad?

Here's my ISO-12,800. f/3.2, 1/100, 135mm (edit: I've also attached an unprocessed, 100% crop, shot in mRAW) I was very impressed with the fur detail, on a black cat.

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JC4 wrote in post #10140289
Your last 5 shots are under exposed. And, are they heavy crops, because the noise looks pretty bad?

Here's my ISO-12,800. f/3.2, 1/100, 135mm

Yes, are heavy cropped somewhat....these were taken in store today and I did not have a lot of time. These are the quick test shots I am using to make my decision on buying a mark 4 or not.....and yup...I'm getting one next week !

Bare in mind the room was very very dark with only a couple of dim spotlight above his head, so camera has done well to draw this much out of it !

Sorry, but dim light is no excuse to underexpose the image. If you properly exposed the pics, there would have been far less noise. Its a very white scene, with the white wall, and light colored shirt. You should have bumped EC at least +1 to get a properly exposed image. It would have looked a ton better. I'm just saying, your shots are no way to evaluate the camera's ability to handle noise.

JC4 wrote in post #10140359
Sorry, but dim light is no excuse to underexpose the image. If you properly exposed the pics, there would have been far less noise. Its a very white scene, with the white wall, and light colored shirt. You should have bumped EC at least +1 to get a properly exposed image. It would have looked a ton better. I'm just saying, your shots are no way to evaluate the camera's ability to handle noise.

Thanks for the tip, but this was in the store and I did not have that much time....these shots were only taken to help me decide if I want the Mark 4...which I do.....and when I should have left the store 10 mins before to get back to work in time !!

str8six wrote in post #10131619
PIXX, great shots. Any further comparison to your 7D?

Nothing anyone with a 1DmkIV wants to hear.

The 7D is faster at getting the Hypo-Sharp focus shot at anything less than f/5+ and its faster to the point where I take one picture versus a batch of shots in a burst with the 1DmkIV.

What I liked about the 1DmkIV over the 7D is that when I shoot a very slow pan, I can pick a two spot single AF focal point that keeps within its zone and that gives a greater accuracy when doing the super slow pans to get the shot using the OMG its Incredible Burst of 10 FPS. I also liked that my battery in the 1DmkIV lasted much longer than my two 7D batteries in the Canon Grip. Spinning the IS in the EF 300mm 2.8L all day is very taxing and the 1DmkIV does it in stride.

There are pluses and negative to both but each has value. I will say that after shooting with both, neither camera seriously outshines the other with true talent using it and great glass.

Have to admit that I'm finding a fair bit of unexpected noise at 'normal' sort of ISOs. Certainly more than I used to get on my MkIII.
Neither of these images have had any processing applied, left is the RAW, right is a co-shot JPEG.
You can see how much they are zoomed but notice the 'grain' on the back of the spade & in the grass? Any thoughts?
Micght be clearer here... http://grab.by/4h0d

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PixxByTango wrote in post #10141822
Nothing anyone with a 1DmkIV wants to hear.

The 7D is faster at getting the Hypo-Sharp focus shot at anything less than f/5+ and its faster to the point where I take one picture versus a batch of shots in a burst with the 1DmkIV.

What I liked about the 1DmkIV over the 7D is that when I shoot a very slow pan, I can pick a two spot single AF focal point that keeps within its zone and that gives a greater accuracy when doing the super slow pans to get the shot using the OMG its Incredible Burst of 10 FPS. I also liked that my battery in the 1DmkIV lasted much longer than my two 7D batteries in the Canon Grip. Spinning the IS in the EF 300mm 2.8L all day is very taxing and the 1DmkIV does it in stride.

There are pluses and negative to both but each has value. I will say that after shooting with both, neither camera seriously outshines the other with true talent using it and great glass.

That says alot about the 7D which is good. As a MKIV owner I am not offended in the least.

RexOne wrote in post #10143034
Have to admit that I'm finding a fair bit of unexpected noise at 'normal' sort of ISOs. Certainly more than I used to get on my MkIII.
Neither of these images have had any processing applied, left is the RAW, right is a co-shot JPEG.
You can see how much they are zoomed but notice the 'grain' on the back of the spade & in the grass? Any thoughts?
Micght be clearer here... http://grab.by/4h0d

I find the noise to be very fine..I quick pass of NR and it's gone and all detail is still there. I turn off all NR in cam and do it in post. The jpg will have some automatic NR most likely.

dolina wrote in post #10138952
tree sparrow you got there.

Thanks Paolo.

PixxByTango wrote in post #10141822
Nothing anyone with a 1DmkIV wants to hear.

The 7D is faster at getting the Hypo-Sharp focus shot at anything less than f/5+ and its faster to the point where I take one picture versus a batch of shots in a burst with the 1DmkIV.

What I liked about the 1DmkIV over the 7D is that when I shoot a very slow pan, I can pick a two spot single AF focal point that keeps within its zone and that gives a greater accuracy when doing the super slow pans to get the shot using the OMG its Incredible Burst of 10 FPS. I also liked that my battery in the 1DmkIV lasted much longer than my two 7D batteries in the Canon Grip. Spinning the IS in the EF 300mm 2.8L all day is very taxing and the 1DmkIV does it in stride.

There are pluses and negative to both but each has value. I will say that after shooting with both, neither camera seriously outshines the other with true talent using it and great glass.

Thanks for the information. I'm a 7D owner, curious about the 1D4. Looks good by most accounts.

How do they compare in the mid-high ISO range - say, 800-3200? This is where I find the 7D more critical of exposure than the 5D2. That is, if I underexpose on the 7, I don't have quite as much latitude to pull up shadows as I do on the 5. I'm curious as to how the 1D4 does in this regard.

chauncey wrote in post #10051725
I am a little tired of the children out there being judgmental concerning the value of bodies and quality of the photogs output.
If you were a little more successful in you chosen career, whatever it may be, perhaps you to could own one of those upper level cameras.
Rather than commentating on whether or not others "deserve" that camera, why not concentrate on improving your own career path and improving that bottom line in your accounts.

Maybe...someday...you can afford the toys that others have...when you grow up that is.

Agreed, my profession is not photography. I just wanted to give myself something I really wanted for my 50th birthday. A 1Dmk4 was the thing. Now I am in for some travelling with a good friend.