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Upgrade dilema, what to do?

 
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May 21, 2010 20:38 |  #1

So I've been wanting to upgrade to a 5D MKII ever since my 40D crapped out 8 months ago on the day Marcos was born (error 99, sent to Canon for repair). Then last week while shooting an event it suddenly quit focusing. I cleared all my custom settings/functions, switched battery/memory card and changed lenses and it worked again but it just makes me want to upgrade even more. Seeing as how I'm on my 2nd DSLR and my 3rd P&S my DH is refusing to buy me a new camera. He makes all the money so I can't just go buy one myself. I finally bugged him enough (and pointed out the small fortune he just spent on some stuff) and he said "FINE! Go buy your stupid camera!" Grrrr. BUT there are rumors of a 5D MKIII coming out. Not sure when, could be in a month, could be 6 months or even a whole year. He said if I get the MKII now there is no way I can upgrade again (um, controlling? Sheesh). I would probably sell my 40D and 2 lenses that won't work with the 5D to help pay for it. So I have 3 options I've been thinking about...

1) Get a new 5D MKII now (take advantage of the current rebate) and just be happy with it for years to come

2) Just keep using my 40D and wait until the new 5D MKIII comes out, then upgrade (could be a year)

3) Get a used 5D MKII now (for less than a new one) and use it for a year or so and save up to get the newer one when it comes out (then sell the MKII or keep it as a backup) I'm hoping to start making some money on shoots in the next year and doing some freelance sign language interpreting to make my own spending money so DH can't determine when/what I buy.

I just don't know what to do, help! Advice?


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May 21, 2010 21:16 |  #2

Option 3.Also, I don't see 3 lenses listed that won't work on 5D.The 5DIII isn't out yet and may be awhile.This way at least you'll be happy and might be able to support this hobby.Maybe if you take pics of your child and get DH involved he'll uderstand better and be more supportive of your hobby.


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May 21, 2010 21:22 as a reply to  @ eddyav's post |  #3

You obviously have a passion for photography and your gallery is proof enough. I also vote for option #3.

btw...DH?


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May 21, 2010 21:26 |  #4

Oh sorry - DH stands for "dear husband"...people use it on mommy message boards. Sometimes in my head though DH = d*ck head. :lol:

My Tamron 17-50 won't work on full frame and I traded the 28-135 for the EF-S 55 - 250mm.


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May 21, 2010 21:35 as a reply to  @ shanni's post |  #5

I see... I thought it meant Dumb Husband.... or soon to be Dead Husband if he didn't let you have the 5DMkII.... but D*ck Head works fine too. :lol:


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May 21, 2010 21:37 as a reply to  @ shanni's post |  #6

Get the 5DII. You'll love it and won't need to upgrade for a while. I think I'd dump the DH though.


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May 21, 2010 21:41 |  #7

option #3 without a doubt. Im personally waiting for the 5D3 albeit 1-2 years away.


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May 21, 2010 22:04 |  #8

Er, upgrade the DH before you upgrade the camera? :lol:

The best answer to your question depends on how you use your camera and what exactly you need out of it.

The 5Dmk3 is likely a year to a year and a half away (rumor has it that it depends more on when Nikon makes its next move and what that move is than on Canon's desire to produce a more capable body).

If you're satisfied with the 40D's performance, then I'd stick with what I had for now. But if you feel you really need at least one of:

  • stellar high-ISO performance
  • very shallow depth of field
  • the ability to print extremely large while retaining good detail


then the third option is probably the way to go. However, all that assumes that you're willing to limit yourself to a center-only autofocus system (the autofocus points on the 5Dmk2 are all clustered close enough to the center of the frame that you may as well consider the whole thing a "center of frame only" autofocus system).

If you need a better autofocus system than the 5Dmk2 provides, then you should wait until the 5Dmk3 comes out. It's very likely to have a better autofocus system than what's on the 5Dmk2, but it remains to be seen what that autofocus system will really be capable of. Some believe it will be a full-frame version of the 7D's autofocus system. I'm somewhat skeptical, but I'm hopeful of that at the same time, since the laughable (in relative terms) autofocus system on the 5Dmk2 is the reason I have remained with the APS-C line.

Keep in mind, too, that used 5Dmk2 bodies are probably not going to sell for all that much less than a new one, so I wouldn't count on buying a used one giving much more latitude with the DH than a new one. Which is to say, if buying a new one precludes an upgrade later, I'd assume a used one would also preclude it.

If shallow depth of field and good detail in larger prints are the primary reasons for upgrading, then you should strongly consider a 5D classic instead.


All of which is to say that I think you realistically have quite a few more options than the ones you listed.

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May 23, 2010 12:52 as a reply to  @ shanni's post |  #9

Based on your images on your site I would say your style very much goes with FF. So the 5dII would be an excellent upgrade for you. To worry about the next generation can be non productive. The new bell or whistle they include may not mean much to you. Buy now, a lightly used one can save you alot of money that can be invested in good glass. I would sell the Tamron, 40D, 55-250. Buy 5DII, 135L, 70-200F4L (non IS ). Or buy a French maid outfit and DH will probably spring for a 1DsIV, ...............just kidding ( well maybe not entirely LoL !)


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May 23, 2010 12:58 |  #10

The OP has some very nice long exposure shots of a freeway. :)

back on topic...

Number three. Just make sure you have the lenses to support it.


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May 23, 2010 13:16 |  #11

shanni wrote in post #10224469 (external link)
Oh sorry - DH stands for "dear husband"...people use it on mommy message boards. Sometimes in my head though DH = d*ck head. :lol:

As a DH of nearly 30 years I've got no problem with either definition.

I think you would appreciate the FF difference :D


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May 26, 2010 09:18 |  #12

Thanks everyone for the advice (and the laughs). :) My birthday is in a couple week so we'll see...


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Jun 07, 2010 23:11 |  #13

So my husband is being a giant a-hole about it. Saying he'll buy it for me when he feels I deserve it, that I need to wait for the new model, that it will be the last camera I get etc etc. So yesterday was my birthday and I thought "damnit I DO deserve it!" So today I opened my own checking account and applied for a credit card and bought the 5D MKII - I'm not even going to tell him...he can suck it!!!!

I'm so freaking excited!!!!


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Jun 07, 2010 23:55 |  #14

Well if your DH is such a d*ck head maybe it is time for you to become more independent. I am quite surprised to discover that housewives are still very common here in North America I guess the women in western Europe are a lot freer and modern while the men there seem to be a lot more helpful when it comes to raising the children and house chores.


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Jun 08, 2010 00:05 as a reply to  @ shanni's post |  #15

Ha, shoot and enjoy it. FWIW Canon seems to take a year or so to get all the bugs out so that MkIII might be a bit more affordable then, you will have a lot of FF experience and a great backup in the MkII...at least thats my plan.

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