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Thread started 23 May 2010 (Sunday) 16:32
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POLL: "Which zoom for Beijing/Hong Kong Trip? 17-40L or 24-105L"
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Lens Selection for Beijing/Hong Kong Trip

 
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May 24, 2010 15:40 |  #16

If you are bringing the 35 and 135 already then go for 17-40 for some nice landscape shots!


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May 24, 2010 18:43 as a reply to  @ smeister's post |  #17

Bring all your lenses, as long as you are okay handling the extra weight in your carry-on. I brought mines and other than loading my carry-on in the luggage rack in the airplane and unpacking all my photography equipment at security check points, no issues whatsoever. I'm glad I brought it.


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May 24, 2010 23:39 |  #18
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Here's the view from the Peak.

I stitched a couple of 24mm shots together for this. I didn't put an awful lot of effort into this because it was pretty hazy. But it shows you can use 24mm this way if you feel you don't want to be changing lenses too often. Then of course, with the 17-40 you can always set it to 24mm. ;) OH and this was shot in Neutral and I didn't bother adding more saturation if you're wondering why the greens look so dull. :)

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Of course if you're into UWA street shots, the 17-40 will be awesome, so bring that. This was taken with the 10-22mm on a 40D (about 2 years ago). Shot at 10mm = 16mm so pretty close.

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May 25, 2010 15:06 |  #19

@ Stealthy Ninja - sweet! thanks for posting examples ... I think I am leaning towards bringing the 17-40mm after thinking about how it would be useful for tight spaces. I guess I should just plan to carry the 135mm with me on days that I do use the 17-40mm, just in case I need the longer reach.

@ All - thanks again for the feedback about how it is carrying around the equipment over there. seems like it should be fine as I've heard from numerous sources now.


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May 25, 2010 16:59 |  #20

I voted 17-40. I think you will regret not taking a UWA.

I would actually take both lenses and a prime. I really miss travelling with 10-22 + 24-105 + 50/1.4 when I had a crop. I have not been able to match this on FF, but I am still working on my kit.


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May 25, 2010 17:52 |  #21
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RonLegend wrote in post #10244391 (external link)
@ Stealthy Ninja - sweet! thanks for posting examples ... I think I am leaning towards bringing the 17-40mm after thinking about how it would be useful for tight spaces. I guess I should just plan to carry the 135mm with me on days that I do use the 17-40mm, just in case I need the longer reach.

@ All - thanks again for the feedback about how it is carrying around the equipment over there. seems like it should be fine as I've heard from numerous sources now.

Yeah, though I voted 24-105, I am sorta switching my mind to the 17-40 now considering you have the 135. Just get a nice shoulder bag so you can switch lenses out. This also can/will keep your bag at your front safe from thieves.

Hong Kong has pick pockets (my wife has been hit 3 times and I suspect I have once) Beijing would have more, so be careful and you'll be OK.

When I was in Tianjin once (China's 3rd largest city if I remember correctly) my friend had a "nice old man" come up and pretend to look at a badge he had on his coat. My friend looked down to see the old's hand in his coat pocket (nothing in the pocket) he was lucky. Another friend of mine had his shoulder bag snatched from him by a dude on a motorbike. So always make sure your bag is secure.

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May 25, 2010 17:57 |  #22

i couldn't imagine going to bejing without my UWA...so i voted 17-40mm since your on FF...the great wall needs ultra wide...it's amazing...have a good trip

as far as safety be aware of your surroundings, and i think you'll be fine


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May 25, 2010 18:51 |  #23

being from hong kong and have visited beijing, def 17-40mm, like most said before me, you'll regret it if you don't bring it. hong kong is a fascinating place, where some streets and alley ways are extremely tight where you have no room to back up and get the shot you want. i'm sure you'll be going to the great wall of china and will def need as wild as possible.

be sure to stop by one of the traditional cafes and have a cup of hong kong ice milk tea and egg custard, it's to die for!




  
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May 25, 2010 19:36 |  #24

I voted for 17-40. It's very important to have a ultra wide angle lens. Many times, there will not be places for you to take a few step backwards.

On a side note thought, remember to keep your gear dry. or else fungus will grow on it because Hk is a super moist location. Summer in HK is like "walking through water".


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May 25, 2010 19:43 as a reply to  @ ckckevin's post |  #25

I have to agree on the 17-40.. I went to Japan earlier this year and the 24-105 was too much for most of the tall and compact area stuff. Definately go wide and crop if needed.


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May 25, 2010 21:42 |  #26

24-105L Don't leave home without it.


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May 25, 2010 21:58 |  #27

cheungupdt wrote in post #10245789 (external link)
I voted for 17-40. It's very important to have a ultra wide angle lens. Many times, there will not be places for you to take a few step backwards.

On a side note thought, remember to keep your gear dry. or else fungus will grow on it because Hk is a super moist location. Summer in HK is like "walking through water".

I probably won't go there between March and September as it is usually super humid and rainy in those months in HK. Any tip to keep the lenses dry. Will the big temperature and humidity difference between indoor and outdoor do any harm to the lenses and camera? If so, how to protect the gears? I really want to know as I am planning to make a trip there as well. I know poeple in HK love to turn up the AC. it's always chilly indoor (even on MTR, bus or taxi) and it's burning hot and extrememly humid outdoor.


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May 25, 2010 22:19 |  #28
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nonick wrote in post #10246597 (external link)
I probably won't go there between March and September as it is usually super humid and rainy in those months in HK. Any tip to keep the lenses dry. Will the big temperature and humidity difference between indoor and outdoor do any harm to the lenses and camera? If so, how to protect the gears? I really want to know as I am planning to make a trip there as well. I know poeple in HK love to turn up the AC. it's always chilly indoor (even on MTR, bus or taxi) and it's burning hot and extrememly humid outdoor.

Well since green groups have been hassling them, the MTR and buses have turn them "down" a bit (they're warmer than before). Even the ol' chill boxes (Cinemas) are a bit warmer these days.

As for fogging etc. it can be a pain. I was in ocean park the other day and when I came out of a cool restaurant my lens (and viewfinder... and glasses) fogged up instantly.

I wiped it down with a microfibre cloth. That's the best way.

Also, even if you're like the guy in my cartoon below, put a UV "protection" filter on the front of your lens, this will help.

As for keeping stuff dry. Some silica gel packs chucked in your bag should be fine. I carry my camera with me every day (I have a dry cabinet thing at home BTW) and I've never had troubles with humidity ruining gear.

Remember too that air-conditioners dehumidify the air, so make use of that in your hotel or whatever and you'll be hunky-dory.


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May 26, 2010 00:00 as a reply to  @ post 10238070 |  #29

I just returned from two weeks in Mainland China and Hong Kong. I carried a pair of 1.6x cameras plus a 17-55mm f/2.8 IS and a 70-200mm f/4L IS lens. I also brought a 12-24mm f/4 Tokina but, seldom used it.

I probably shot 60% of my images with the 17-55mm and 40% with the 70-200mm. The 17mm was wide enough in most venues - when I needed wider, I would shoot a hand-held pano (see Bird Cage pano shot at 55mm). I willl admit that I am not at all a great fan of ultrawide shots - especially street shots containing people... The 17-55mm was a great lens for low light shooting but, your f/f camera has better high-ISO performance than either my 30D or 40D - so I would expect that your 24-105mm could be your main lens. Perhaps a 40mm f/1.4 might come in handy.

I always carried a flash - usually the little 270EX on which I used a Joe Demb Mini-Flip-it (I think he calls that one the "photojournalist" now). I used the 270ex basically as fill light when I was shooting in low light situations (see butcher image).

The 70-200mm came in very handy when I wanted to shoot portraits of people without getting their attention.

IMO, China is one of the safest venues in which I have ever traveled. Violent crime (especially against foreign visitors) is virtually unknown. I did however, take reasonable precautions against theft by not flashing wads of money or leaving my camera gear unattended. Virtually everyone in Shanghai has a camera around his neck and high quality cameras are quite common.

Eyewitness Travel has a good guide to Beijing (and I believe they have ones for other cities... See them on amazon.com

Must see:
Beijing area:
Great wall
Summer Palace
Temple of Heavenly Peace Park
Tienanmen Square and the Forbidden City
Hutongs
The people are wonderfully colorful and very willing to be photographed.
Hong Kong:
View from Victoria Peak day and night (hope for good weather)
Star Ferry trip to Kowloon
Stanley Market
Wonderful street scenes all over the place
Aberdeen and the Jumbo Floating Restaurant

If you can possibly do it, Xi'an, the home, of the wonderful Terracotta warriors and the beautiful Li River between Yangshuo and Guilin are great places.

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May 26, 2010 00:24 as a reply to  @ RPCrowe's post |  #30

Weather in H.K. can be getting pretty nasty this time of year as the typhoons start rolling in. I had some pretty rough weather in early April and it was only going to get worse. There was no daytime view from Victoria Peak as indicated by this image...

I don't remember if I mentioned the Hong Kong Laser Show from Kowloon Peninsula's Star Ferry Landing. A tripod would be great but, you have to get there early because there are crowds. I shot this one hand held by jacking the ISO up and using the IS capability of the 17-55mm f/2.8 lens.

BTW: If you go from Mainland China to Hong Kong and wish to return to the Mainland, you need a two visit visa for China. Although H.K. is now controlled by China, it is treated as a foreign country regarding passports and visas.


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