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May 17, 2010 11:56 |  #1

Hello!
This is my first time shooting a dance only show - had to shoot it from my seat with 450d and 17-55 f/2.8.
I know they arent the best, but I would really like to get your feedback and tips.
3 things I learned from yesterday:
1. Flash Kills the mood, and kills the dancers.
2. Smoke is your enemy.
3.I need a camera with better ISO performance. Now. :)

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May 27, 2010 12:48 |  #2

Dance performance, where very low light and fast movements meet is difficult to shoot.
In stead of getting another cam, a 1.4 prime might be more effective.
Well done anyway.




  
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May 27, 2010 14:43 |  #3

Wow, A reply! :)
Thanks, it is indeed difficult...
Hope I would get more chances to shoot dance performances..


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May 27, 2010 19:35 |  #4

I do not like dance, and I find recitals boring.... But you did great job! I really like 2 and 4. The perspective on 2 is great!


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May 27, 2010 20:29 |  #5

You did really! The lighting on the group is great. Your doing great with what you have.


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May 28, 2010 00:25 as a reply to  @ mitchella68's post |  #6

What ISO were you using?


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May 28, 2010 01:21 |  #7

i like the 4th one the best!

for someone who was using a 450D at low light and fast movements, im sure everyone will agree that you did a great job with it!


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May 28, 2010 03:20 |  #8

Thanks guys, you really made me feel good about these pictures :)
I believe I was using ISO400, I dont think I got to 800.
the noise at iso800 in the 450d is just too high in my opinion..


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May 28, 2010 05:41 |  #9

I have even used a 350D at 800 in theatre.
As long as your exposure is ok, I find the amount of noise acceptable, underexposure will cause a snowstorm.




  
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May 28, 2010 06:54 as a reply to  @ hennie's post |  #10

Try a noise correction plug-in for Photoshop. I use Noiseware Pro.
Then shoot iso1600, process with "film grain effect" and evaluate the result.
I prefer loss of detail from grain over motion blur that is not an artistic choice.


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May 28, 2010 12:05 |  #11

Hi Eagle. First post for me. Sole reason I purchased a Canon 1000D was to photo my kids' dance recitals & competitions; I'm a father of three. I purchased a Sigma 50-150 for that purpose and was unimpressed with my pictures at max ISO for that model; I didn't know then what I know now about photography equipment.
Two months ago I purchased the 550D and BLAM!!! What a difference. Still use the Sigi but now with higher ISO. 1600 minimum, but usually 3200 & 6400.

Having been a dancer myself, I know how to time the jumps and leaps. Best advice I can give is get a lens with a 2.8 (which I see you have) or better (I've used a 50mm 1.8 at rehearsals in a studio and I know the pros use the 70-200 2.8 at comps); NEVER use flash (a dancer's pet peeve), try to use manual focus for comparison (my eyes are bad these days so I rely a lot on AF), and learn how to time the shot. Oh, and post processing; i.e., noise reduction, is your best friend for shoots such as these.


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May 28, 2010 12:12 |  #12

thanks for the tips guys :)
MiLew - The main issue here is the iso. As you said, the 550d can reach 6400.
The max ISO for the 450D is 1600, and I doubt that even after an extensive post processing, a shot that was taken at iso1600 would look very good..


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May 28, 2010 12:39 |  #13

Very true. It all comes down to stage lighting and exposure speed then. There were times with the 1000D where I just said "forget it" after some test shots.


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May 28, 2010 15:39 |  #14

I am going to disagree with "smoke is your enemy". if the show (and your shots) don't look better with smoke they should fire the lighting designer.


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May 29, 2010 01:44 |  #15

Well done - very trying conditions, and you've done a great job.


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