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*REVIEW* Think Tank Retrospective 20

 
mitch2k1
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May 31, 2010 14:13 |  #106

hfgarris wrote in post #10276591 (external link)
How much risk do you think there is in putting a Unibody (aluminum) MacBook Air in there without incurring dents from the camera gear due to handling and bumps encountered in normal use?

-howard

Since there is really no padding in the sides of the bags, just the thickness of the material itself, the laptop would be minimally protected. Depending upon the way you work out of the bag, how much of the time you'll be carrying the laptop in the bag, how the bag is handled, and how much gear you you carry, you'd probably dent the laptop eventually. But if you're just carrying the bag with the laptop in it from home to office, and then removing the laptop and working out of the bag you'd be less likely to damage the laptop. Personally if I were traveling with the bag, and laptop, I'd get to my destination leave the laptop in the hotel room, and then go shoot. And since the MacBook Air is thinner, it might fair better.


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Jun 01, 2010 02:07 |  #107

Adorama has ran out of stocks for the Retro '20. Guess I'll have to wait some more before getting this gorgeous bag!




  
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Jun 01, 2010 03:27 |  #108

jacobsen1 wrote in post #10273148 (external link)
will that fit? Yes. But why anyone would want to keep a camera in the front outer pocket is beyond me. That seams to be a worst case scenario more than something I'd do day to day really.

but here's the deal, there are three main compartments to the retro 10 on the bottom. Put the spare body in one (INSIDE the main compartment), put the camera WITH a lens in the middle, then on the other side you can EASILY fit two lenses (I've got my 24G and 12-24mm on the side in mine, both very thick/wide lenses). If they're short you can stack lenses over there as well. And if you NEEDED to bring another lens with you every once in a while, you can bring it in a modular side pocket. Don't forget those loops because they REALLY open up the options with the retros. You can DOUBLE the capacity with a pair of larger modulars if you needed to.

jacobsen - I wouldn't do it for a day to day purpose. It's just to get both bodies to another venue quickly without having to drag along my think tank airport takeoff for small location changes (preparations and photosession).

I have a lens changer 25 I was planning on using to expand the bag as well.

gotglade - Good point. I was comparing the sizes before I posted and the 20 looks like a good value for just $10 more. I was trying to go with something compact, but I don't think those 2 inches will kill me. Ideally, something smaller than the R10 that fit only two pockets (one for the SLR with lens attached and one for just 1-3 lenses depending on size) would be perfect for me. Ack....the quest for the ideal bag continues.


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Jun 01, 2010 19:00 as a reply to  @ bangarang's post |  #109

I received a surprise today! The doorbell rang and my friendly postal delivery representative left a box at my door. I had no idea what it was, but it had my name on it. So I opened it. And what did I find? A beautiful new pinestone Retrospective 20 bag. Hah! I ordered this from Adorama in late April and had completely forgotten about it at this point in time. Well, I immediately started putting my gear into it (1DM3, 70-200, 17-40, 24-70, 85F1.8 ) and it all fits! With room left over for a flash or two and some other miscellaneous stuff. So I just wanted to share my thoughts - this looks to be a great bag. It appears casual, yet sharp. It is large enough for a generous selection of gear. It is extremely comfortable to carry over the shoulder. The material is thick, yet soft. And it is easy to get at your gear when you need it. So I second all of the favorable comments that have been made in this thread. Just glad I ordered early.




  
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Jun 01, 2010 20:53 |  #110

So I settled on the R20.....now...black or pinestone! ahhhhhhhhhhhh


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Jun 02, 2010 04:59 |  #111

bangarang wrote in post #10285386 (external link)
So I settled on the R20.....now...black or pinestone! ahhhhhhhhhhhh

I had the same predicament but settled for the pinestone. For more formal and less discreet look, the black one should win you over. For street photography type of bag or general travel, the pinestone is for me. It still boils down to personal preference but both colors look good!!!

I do have some TT modular accessories which are in black so i'm not sure if those will look good on the pinestone bag color :) still waiting for mine to arrive! *excited*




  
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Jun 02, 2010 08:19 |  #112

Hey Furry, congrats!

I have a lens changer 25 as well so it will clash quite a bit with the pinestone ;).....however it just looks so damn sexy. :S


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Jun 02, 2010 09:47 |  #113

bangarang wrote in post #10287822 (external link)
Hey Furry, congrats!

I have a lens changer 25 as well so it will clash quite a bit with the pinestone ;).....however it just looks so damn sexy. :S

Bangarang, thanks buddy! I recently became a thinktank convert and love their products. The Retro '20 has been a long wait since the picture with Doug came out :) so have you decided which color to get? ^^




  
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Jun 02, 2010 21:05 |  #114

2mnycars wrote in post #10236630 (external link)
Truly appreciate the posts here.
Unfortunately, distribtution is poor here in Canada. Henry's claims to carry the bags.
[...]
FWIW I'm in Toronto, west end.

Not sure if ThinkTank has much experience shipping to Canada -- if vendors don't fill out the proper customs forms, the shipment tends to get delayed at the border (not to mention potentially high duty rates if the customs officers don't know exactly what is being shipped).

I know Adorama has lots of experience shipping stuff to Canada (I've had good experience ordering Canon stuff from Adorama in the past), so maybe that is the way to go?

Furry77 wrote in post #10280423 (external link)
Adorama has ran out of stocks for the Retro '20. Guess I'll have to wait some more before getting this gorgeous bag!

Checking Adorama's website right now there is no mention of it being out of stock -- I only looked at the black R20 though.


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Jun 02, 2010 21:43 |  #115

RetroBlader, thanks for your response. I shall look into it. The premium charged by Henry's, and the inconvenience--they don't have stock in the Mississauga store, though their site said they did...I'll happily order through a US vendor.
I do thank you!
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Jun 07, 2010 10:55 |  #116

The Retro '20 pinestone in Adorama is in backorder until June 21st the last time i checked. It may have been a good thing so i canceled my order and planning to get the Retro '10 instead!




  
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Jun 07, 2010 13:11 |  #117

My only gripe would be the material on the bottom of Retrospective might get dingy if you're in wet or dirty ground circumstances and you need to set the bag down.

Retrospective makes me want to ditch my current favorite, Tenba Large Messenger. The Messenger, once loaded, rolls over when you set it down. Does the Retrospective stay upright when you put it down?




  
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Jun 07, 2010 14:11 |  #118

gotglade wrote in post #10272322 (external link)
As for what you want to carry, and someone (Ben? Jannie?) correct me if I'm wrong, but a pro body + 70-200 will end up sticking out of the R10 a little on the top and so the flap won't completely close.
The R10 & R20 share the same width and depth dimensions but the R20 has an added 2" of height and so can easily fit this combo. You also get more room for stacking lenses or other things. For example, in one partition of my R20, I can fit my 24-70L, 100 macro (non-L) and 16-35L sideways and one on top of the other (the Ls have their hoods on and reversed). Now, I wouldn't really ever need to do this, but it's nice to know I can.

I just picked up a Pinestone R10. My 7D with 70-200 f4 IS attached fits easily in the center compartment. I am guessing that a gripped or pro size body with the lens would also fit. The bag also holds my 17-55 f2.8, 1.4 XT, and 430EX with plenty of room to spare. For my limited kit, the R10 is just right, but if I had 2-3 more lenses I would probably pop for the R20.




  
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Jun 07, 2010 14:52 as a reply to  @ sraj's post |  #119

I've had my R20 in pinestone for about two weeks now and have had the opportunity to carry it on several occassions. Personally I think I prefer to have the height of the R20 over the R10 for "just in case" times. I've been comfortable carrying my 70-200 2.8 IS to the left side, 16-35 to the right, and by Gripped 5d II in the middle with my 24-70 2.8 attached with a Sigma 50 1.4 under the 24-70-separated by a velcro insert. I still have room over the 16-35 on the right to stack another lens with a velcro divider. I can fit my netbook in the front compartment when I feel like bringing it along. Yes, all that is heavy, but the strap does pretty well compared to other bags.

Of course, I don't have to take all my lenses, but knowing I can is nice.
I think the R20 makes it easy to take my kit with me all the time.


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Jun 07, 2010 21:56 |  #120

Savas K wrote in post #10318511 (external link)
Does the Retrospective stay upright when you put it down?


The R10 does. Can't speak for the R20 or R30.


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