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Opportunity for press pass, but should I take it?

 
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Jun 01, 2010 18:59 |  #16

yeah just rent the gear for the duration of the event - no one will know the difference especially if you are already making some nice photos with basic gear!


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Jun 01, 2010 19:11 |  #17

Don't be intimidated by someone else's apparent wealth. This has no bearing on their ability to capture images. My grandma out cooks the best with her 1940's iron skillet.


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Jun 02, 2010 01:29 as a reply to  @ Naturalist's post |  #18

Word of advice. If you do rent, allow a bit of time before the event to allow yourself to become familiar with and test out the rented equipment so that you aren't learning new controls on a different body or getting used to a different lens during the event.


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Jun 02, 2010 02:31 |  #19

take it , gear has nothing to do with talent.


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Jun 02, 2010 22:24 |  #20

Bear in mind if you do decide to go, you are now working and not doing it for fun. Does your client know that you have concerns? They may be expecting more than what you can produce!

Gear is not everything, but it helps if you have the appropriate stuff! I know somebody will jump in and say "we all have to start somewhere!" but you need to approach this in the right way! Saying things like you've "somehow" got the oppurtunity doesn't sound right, you should know.

Anyway, if you have any questions, send me a PM and I will help you out!

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I'm fortunate enough to somehow get the opportunity to get a press pass for Castle Combe in a couple of weeks time. However, and this may well sound quite odd, I'm not sure I want it.

The reason is kit. Look at my sig, it's all basic beginner stuff. I'd feel a complete fraud having a white vest and being in front of the fence.

I guess I can hire something, but I've never shot at Combe before, so I've got no idea what to get, where to get it from (lenses for hire I guess - anyone used them?), or anything else - what's the etiquette? Stay out of everyone else's way even if it's to the detriment of me?

Or should I just stop worrying and make the most of it?


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Jun 03, 2010 07:00 |  #21

Thanks for the comments everyone, certainly food for thought.

Mike, I can elaborate on the somehow. It's come about through me doing the write-ups on Britcar for Andrews website 'Racing Exposure'. After a couple of posts on the Piston Heads forum before the first race, a chap from Britcar got in touch with me about what I was doing, and offered help where he could.

Apparently MSV are more particular with photog passes than other circuit owners, and Combe are apparently a little more relaxed, so he is going to put me forward for a pass for the next round there in a couple of weeks.

As for the client. It's an odd one, as I'm not taking shots or doing the write-up for Britcar themselves, yet they are the ones getting the pass, and the write up that I put on Racing Exposure is purely on a voluntary basis.

As I've said earlier, I know that Britcar isn't F1 or anything, but I have to say that I've found myself in this situation almost without looking for it - hence the 'somehow' that I mentioned in the OP.

It seems as though the PL insurance is going to be about £100. I think that I'm going to go for the insurance to get trackside, and possibly hire a lens depending on funds. I figured that I'm getting acceptable shots with my current kit, so if I'm closer to the track then that can only help things.


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Jun 03, 2010 10:55 |  #22

If you need any letters from me, let me know. I've been particularly impressed with your Britcar reporting!

I've not had to deal with Combe myself, last time I went I was starting out and was restricted to spectator areas, just not had an need to go back since. MSV and BARC are more stringent than some of the other circuits.

For smaller events, Silverstone hands over the accreditation side to the organising clubs, so for the Britcar24 you should have no problem - and I'm going myself.


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Jun 03, 2010 17:01 |  #23

Andrew, thanks for the vote of confidence!

Had planned on going to the 24Hr as well, perhaps it'd be an opportunity to meet up. Would be nice to put a face to a name.


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Jun 07, 2010 18:06 |  #24

Go there, but before you go there, borrow a telephoto and practice. Also read something about safety and when others try to shoot or walk, don´t stand in their way.


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Jun 11, 2010 14:09 |  #25

As an ex racer i was asked by a friend to try to get a few pics of his new car. Next thing I know I am the track photographer and have been at it for 20 years. Never pass up an opportunityh. They may not come around again.




  
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Jun 11, 2010 14:30 |  #26

While I agree with "Never Pass Up an Opportunity", and that Gear is no reason to back down from this offer, I think we need to look at this from a separate point of view. Press passes/ credentials are meant for working professionals and media. Sure they get handed out to people who should not be there, but, that is what they are meant for. SO, if you are not working with some form of media, I would not take this opportunity. Here is the situation from a second perspective. Because you get a credential, someone who is actually working for media may not get to be on the track.

Wanting to be on the track just for a better view or better photos is no reason to accept this one chance. (not accusing you of doing so, just stating a fact.)


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Jun 11, 2010 14:42 |  #27

canonnoob wrote in post #10344850 (external link)
While I agree with "Never Pass Up an Opportunity", and that Gear is no reason to back down from this offer, I think we need to look at this from a separate point of view. Press passes/ credentials are meant for working professionals and media. Sure they get handed out to people who should not be there, but, that is what they are meant for. SO, if you are not working with some form of media, I would not take this opportunity. Here is the situation from a second perspective. Because you get a credential, someone who is actually working for media may not get to be on the track.

Wanting to be on the track just for a better view or better photos is no reason to accept this one chance. (not accusing you of doing so, just stating a fact.)

It's only a Britcar meeting so there won't be a mile-long line of Photographers waiting outside the Circuit office to sign on. The OP won't be denying anyone the opportunity to earn a crust and it might just be a foot in the door for him.

If you actually read post 21, he's been given the chance due to someone from britcar seeing the write ups he does for AndrewC's new website which is doing rather well, so as far as i'm concerned he fits the definition of "Working Media" a lot better than some photographers i could name.

Everyone has to start somewhere.


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Jun 11, 2010 16:01 |  #28

Yes, Alex has been providing my Racing Exposure news site with Britcar stuff, both words and pictures.

When I started Racing Exposure six months ago, Britcar were one of the first high profile club series to get in touch with me, both Steve Wood who is their PR guy, and also James Tucker who is Mr. Britcar. Obviously they have been sufficiently impressed with Alex as well to offer him a media pass.

Alex's situation is slightly unusual. Normally the photographer applies to the circuit or the organising race series or club for a media pass - its somewhat rarer for the race series to make the offer to the photographer! This, coupled with it being Alex's first time trackside, is why he's a little unsure of himself.

Everyone needs their break - I myself have had a couple of lucky breaks, and I'm happy to give people a chance. Whilst writing or supplying pictures for a small website such as mine is not comparable to Autosport for example, it could lead onto bigger things.

I was at Anglesey for the CSCC meeting a few weeks ago, and the circuit commentator came up to me and asked how my site was going, which I was pleased about, because I hadn't told him about it.

My site is a little different to a lot of the others. I'm not covering Formula 1, GP2, F3 or the other series which are either professional or career series. These are well covered elsewhere. My site covers club motorsport which doesn't get much coverage at all. I cover from the typical 750MC type of meeting up to the hazy area where club motorsport and professional merge, the bar I've pitched at being at around the BTCC support race series where an amateur driver (of reasonable wealth) could compete alongside people who class themselves as professional drivers. The Porsche Carrera Cup being a prime example - they run classes for professionals and amateurs.

Now, if any other people wish to contribute in a small way, please get in touch!


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Jun 16, 2010 14:02 |  #29

Thanks for all the different points of view - it's certainly interesting reading other peoples opinions on this.

I've decided to go for it, and have sorted out the PL insurance. Not going to hire a lens though, so will have to make do with current kit.

Now, all I need is a circuit guide for the best places to shoot from, having never been there before. I'm sure there's bound to be one on here somewhere.


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Jun 16, 2010 14:45 |  #30

Ingsy wrote in post #10373613 (external link)
Thanks for all the different points of view - it's certainly interesting reading other peoples opinions on this.

I've decided to go for it, and have sorted out the PL insurance. Not going to hire a lens though, so will have to make do with current kit.

Now, all I need is a circuit guide for the best places to shoot from, having never been there before. I'm sure there's bound to be one on here somewhere.

Good for you!!! good luck and post up the pics afterward.


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