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85mm f/1.2 II or 135L?

 
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Jun 21, 2010 21:52 |  #16

135L + Rokinon 85 1.4-- For times when you can afford to MF, the Rokinon offers very similar magic IQ to the 85L.


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Jun 21, 2010 21:52 |  #17

JeffreyG wrote in post #10404048 (external link)
Perhaps. But the problem is that by the time you get to f/1.2 the subject is often not completely in focus. Usually not even close to all in focus.

For all but the most loosely composed shots, an 85mm lens at faster than f/2 will deliver extremely shallow DOF. This makes for nice background blur for sure, but it also is typically inadequate for subject focus.

I bought the 85L because of the endless promotion of the lens on this forum. It works as advertised - very sharp, excellent bokeh, perfect color, great contrast. It suffers from godawful purple fringing in high contrast situations.

The 85/1.8 is very close in performance while giving up one stop. The lens is also very sharp (especially from f/2.2), renders excellent bokeh, has great color and suffers from purple fringing. The AF is actually better than on the 85L.

Yeh that was one of my concerns as well that I'd have to throw away too many shots because of the extremely shallow DOF. ALso, what about the build quality of the L compared to the 1.8, weather sealing, etc??


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Jun 21, 2010 21:53 |  #18

yogestee wrote in post #10404041 (external link)
I agree.. The 135L's bokeh is magic..

Check this out,, shot at f/2.8..

You are right, magic indeed =).

Wow, this is a tough call :S

As a street one, which one would you recommend?


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Jun 21, 2010 21:58 |  #19

Fernando.R wrote in post #10404116 (external link)
Yeh that was one of my concerns as well that I'd have to throw away too many shots because of the extremely shallow DOF. ALso, what about the build quality of the L compared to the 1.8, weather sealing, etc??

The 85L is not weather sealed. It also is much slower focusing than the 85/1.8.


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Jun 21, 2010 21:59 |  #20

I would also keep in mind that the sigma 85 1.4 just came out, if it turns out to be a decent lens then the sigma 85 AND 135L could be a great street setup for roughly the cost of an 85L. If it's just between the 85L and 135L, buy the focal length that suits your shooting style best.




  
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Jun 21, 2010 22:05 |  #21

JeffreyG wrote in post #10404148 (external link)
The 85L is not weather sealed. It also is much slower focusing than the 85/1.8.

Ahh didn't know that. So no advantage there :P


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Jun 21, 2010 22:09 |  #22

colin842 wrote in post #10404151 (external link)
I would also keep in mind that the sigma 85 1.4 just came out, if it turns out to be a decent lens then the sigma 85 AND 135L could be a great street setup for roughly the cost of an 85L. If it's just between the 85L and 135L, buy the focal length that suits your shooting style best.


Yeh the Sigi's arrival is turning everything upside down as well. BUt will probably be a while till reviews are out right?


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Jun 21, 2010 22:15 |  #23

For street photography, I'd go with the 135L. The 85L is my most used lens, but the 135L has the reach and focus speed that would be useful for street photography. The bokeh is magic in both lenses. For me, it's tough to take a bad shot with the 135L.


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Jun 21, 2010 22:20 |  #24

EcoRick wrote in post #10404237 (external link)
For street photography, I'd go with the 135L. The 85L is my most used lens, but the 135L has the reach and focus speed that would be useful for street photography. The bokeh is magic in both lenses. For me, it's tough to take a bad shot with the 135L.

Wow most used ehh, damn. Such a tough call. WHich one would you say is more subtle when shooting people in the street?


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Jun 21, 2010 22:20 |  #25

Yeh the Sigi's arrival is turning everything upside down as well. BUt will probably be a while till reviews are out right?

I'm not sure how long we'll have to wait for reviews, though you could always buy a used 135L in the meantime. If later you find that the 85L is what you want, you can sell the 135L for about the price you bought it for. There's no doubt that the 85L and 135L are both great lenses, so rest assured you won't make a bad decision. What sounds more appealing for your street shooting? Faster aperture and closer to normal focal length, or longer reach and faster AF? Like others have suggested, the 135L and 85 1.8 is a great option. That way you get to try both focal lengths, if you end up liking 85mm more, then sell them both for the 85L, if not then keep both lenses.




  
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Jun 21, 2010 22:23 |  #26

colin842 wrote in post #10404268 (external link)
I'm not sure how long we'll have to wait for reviews, though you could always buy a used 135L in the meantime. If later you find that the 85L is what you want, you can sell the 135L for about the price you bought it for. There's no doubt that the 85L and 135L are both great lenses, so rest assured you won't make a bad decision. What sounds more appealing for your street shooting? Faster aperture and closer to normal focal length, or longer reach and faster AF? Like others have suggested, the 135L and 85 1.8 is a great option. That way you get to try both focal lengths, if you end up liking 85mm more, then sell them both for the 85L, if not then keep both lenses.

Sounds reasonable Colin. Thanks for the help brotha.:D


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Jun 21, 2010 22:28 |  #27

If your a little patient, you can pick up a use 135L. If you don't like it, you can sell it for little or no loss.


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Jun 21, 2010 22:37 |  #28

What you need to get people in the street is distance so that they aren't aware you're there. I always use the 135 for that & on a 1D (1.3 crop). And I always keep the TC1.4 in my pocket when even longer reach is needed.


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Jun 21, 2010 22:42 |  #29

rossbeckernz wrote in post #10404348 (external link)
What you need to get people in the street is distance so that they aren't aware you're there. I always use the 135 for that & on a 1D (1.3 crop). And I always keep the TC1.4 in my pocket when even longer reach is needed.

That's another question I had (I know, I have many :lol: ).
In the short time that I have been into photography, I have always gone up fairly close to the people and 99% of the time they have been ok with me taking their photos. Is that a photography no-no? Does shooting from a distance produce better photos??


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Jun 21, 2010 22:47 |  #30

Fernando.R wrote in post #10403588 (external link)
So it turns out that my 28-70mm is alright after all and Canon will be sending it back shortly.

Question now is which lens to buy to supplement it and so I have a few questions.
I've heard nothing but good things about the 135L and it clearly seems to be an amazing lens. What I wanted to know was if the 85L II can be used occasionally as a walk-around/street lens in town and shoot people on the street, shops, etc. or if the speed is as bad as people say.

It seems that everyone says that it produces amazing photos, so why not use them on people in the street as well?

Thanks for the input =)

I use the 85/1.8 solely for street photography and the 85L for portraits and events.

The 85L is something quite special.. to me, it produces a very distinctive look at f/1.2 that the 85/1.8 can't match. Worth the money? Personally, yes. However there are some notable disadvantages. The AF is slow, and the lens is quite heavy. For street photography, I still prefer the 85/1.8 simply due to the weight. The AF hasn't bothered me too much so far.

If you don't mind the weight (the 85L really is quite a heavy, bulky prime) and have the cash, I don't think you'd go wrong with the 85L. Otherwise, like others have suggested - an 85/1.8 and 135L would serve you well.


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