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Canon EOS 7D vs. 5DmkII

 
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Jun 29, 2010 11:05 |  #1

I need some advise from those who have experience with both of these cameras. I am looking at upgrading from my gripped 40D to one of these two cameras... However i dont know which one to chose. I LOVE the high megapixel count of the 5DmkII but it only bursts at 3fps, where as the 7D bursts at 8fps. I do all sorts of photography, from portrait, candid, landscape, animals, birds in flight, sports.... just about anything and everything... The 5DmkII is at the top of my price range so please dont recomend anything above that... My question is, what would be best for my photography needs? I feel as if i need/want the 8fps of the 7D. But i have no experience with either of these cameras, and dont have a local place to rent both and put them through their paces just to test them out... Please help. Pictures are always welcome!!
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ETA: I also shoot ALOT in low light and need something that wont have alot of noise at high ISO.




  
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Jun 29, 2010 11:09 |  #2

19dsniper wrote in post #10447416 (external link)
I need some advise from those who have experience with both of these cameras. I am looking at upgrading from my gripped 40D to one of these two cameras... However i dont know which one to chose. I LOVE the high megapixel count of the 5DmkII but it only bursts at 3fps, where as the 7D bursts at 8fps. I do all sorts of photography, from portrait, candid, landscape, animals, birds in flight, sports.... just about anything and everything... The 5DmkII is at the top of my price range so please dont recomend anything above that... My question is, what would be best for my photography needs? I feel as if i need/want the 8fps of the 7D. But i have no experience with either of these cameras, and dont have a local place to rent both and put them through their paces just to test them out... Please help. Pictures are always welcome!!
Thanks everyone!

ETA: I also shoot ALOT in low light and need something that wont have alot of noise at high ISO.

5DII off that need right there.


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Jun 29, 2010 11:10 |  #3

vipergts831 wrote in post #10447440 (external link)
5DII off that need right there.


IDK. The 7D is more than proficient in low light


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Jun 29, 2010 11:13 as a reply to  @ midnight_rider's post |  #4

If you go to the 5D2 you it will ( appear) as if you lost some reach. Most sports shooters enjoy the higher FPS of the crop cameras along with the extra reach. For birdingthis is helpful as well. The New AF on the 7D may also be a good selling point for you as well.

What are you wanting that your 40D is not giving you.

What other gear do you have?


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Jun 29, 2010 11:15 |  #5

19dsniper wrote in post #10447416 (external link)
... I am looking at upgrading from my gripped 40D .... I LOVE the high megapixel count of the 5DmkII ....

One thing to concider is that though the 5D has a higher pixel count, you'll get fewer pixels on target than with your 40D. This is important when doing wildlife/bird shots. For instance, a pic taken with your 40 of a bird in flight will give you an image. The same pic with a 5D you'll either have to have a longer lens, or be a lot closer to fill the 5D frame to the same amount.


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Jun 29, 2010 11:17 |  #6

gjl711 wrote in post #10447471 (external link)
One thing to concider is that though the 5D has a higher pixel count, you'll get fewer pixels on target than with your 40D. This is important when doing wildlife/bird shots. For instance, a pic taken with your 40 of a bird in flight will give you an image. The same pic with a 5D you'll either have to have a longer lens, or be a lot closer to fill the 5D frame to the same amount.

Or you can just crop the picture.


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Jun 29, 2010 11:21 |  #7

bkdc wrote in post #10447485 (external link)
Or you can just crop the picture.

But that's my point. Yes you can, but the image you will get will be of lower resolution than the current 40D. The 5DMkIIs sensor with the 1.6 center cropped out is about 8mp. For many things like landscapes and portraits this isn't important. For wildlife and birds your upgrade might actually be a downgrade in IQ without some other adjustment.


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Jun 29, 2010 11:21 |  #8

bkdc wrote in post #10447485 (external link)
Or you can just crop the picture.

Eh? I think he was highlighting the fact that you'd still have less pixel-on-target. Isn't so much about cropping to recompose.

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Jun 29, 2010 11:24 |  #9

Ha..would it be kosher to recommend a D700? Has the low light performance of the 5D MK II and the burst/autofocus of the 7D. I'd still prefer a crop camera for birds though. That fake reach is invaluable, given the exponential cost of long lenses.

Edit: Minus Nikon, I would go with 5D MK II, or maybe a used 1d Mark III. Don't think you would be happy with a 7D if the 40D high iso bugs you that much.




  
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Jun 29, 2010 11:24 |  #10

Any chance of keeping the 40D as a 2nd/backup? If so, go with the 5DMKII.


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Jun 29, 2010 11:26 |  #11

I just realised my gear list is not coming up for some reason, sorry.
Gripped 40D, 20D, Canon 100-400mm. f4.5-5.6L IS USM, Canon 28-135mm. f/3.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon 50mm f/1.4 USM.

The 40d just has soo much noise that i dont enjoy shooting it at ISO 800 or higher. That, and i am getting married in a year and a friend is shooting the wedding for free.... I would LOVE to have a better camera for her to use than her 40D and my 40D as a back up..




  
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Jun 29, 2010 11:28 |  #12

Definately keeping the 40D as a back up.. forget Birds in flight, hope that doesnt make anyone mad... Its not something i do often enought to be a huge factor...




  
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Jun 29, 2010 11:36 as a reply to  @ 19dsniper's post |  #13

With all of your lenses being EF My first response would be 5D2 that way you can enjoy both FF or crop...Best of both worlds right.....

But then I notice all of you glass is SLOW... Forget high ISo, it is not nearly as nice as glass speed. So for the same amount as a 5D2 go get some good glass and get the extra stops of light there


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Jun 29, 2010 11:36 |  #14

5d2 then, but dont expect any improvements in AF.


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Jun 29, 2010 11:43 |  #15

19dsniper wrote in post #10447552 (external link)
The 40d just has soo much noise that i dont enjoy shooting it at ISO 800 or higher.

It's so different how you envision it. When I use my 40D, I think it has very little noise. I use high ISO mainly for action photos, where hopefully what's going on in the picture is interesting enough to keep people's attraction away from possible noise in the image.


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