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24-105L vs 3 Prime Lenses

 
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Jul 07, 2010 00:55 |  #16

35, 85 and 100 macro would be bettter, me thinks.




  
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Jul 07, 2010 00:58 |  #17

I can't imagine trading a decent short zoom for multiple primes... then again, I HATE swapping lens :)


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Jul 07, 2010 01:11 |  #18

thenotorlousdan wrote in post #10490450 (external link)
Is the sigma 24 1.8 better than the 28 1.8 by Canon?

I don't know, but I could compare it with my 24L1.4II which is probably the sharpest and quickest lens.

https://photography-on-the.net …ht=sigma+24F1.8​+real+life

and results were really very good.

After using zooms and not being a real pro, I could never have a versatile lens with an F4 aperture, most of the time is too slow.
I sold a 70-300DOIS and a 70-200F4 because :
- either I couldn't use it indoor (church, museum, even restaurant), - or in the night (streets)
- and even in winter daytime I was unable to freeze my running dogs or playing children legs or arms...
I would say zooms are more or less necessary for professionals (journalist, photographs) where you can't move a few steps forward or backward. I am sometimes as a journalist for quadbike races and I use mostly a 300L2.8 + TC2X (when needed) I just walk a little bit to get the right angle and size...
In a certain way, It's also quite difficult to get same sharpness and smooth bokeh with a zoom as with a prime.
In my case I have quit zooms with no regret, maybe one day i will give a chance to a 70-200L2.8II .. but I wan't to get a 200L2.0 first.


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Jul 07, 2010 03:10 |  #19

That is exactly what I did. I sold my 24-105 and got myself the Sigma 50 and the Canon 85 1.8. I love this and never looked back. I want to get a wider lens though, so I am looking for a 17-40L.

I think in the future, I might sell the Sigma 50 for a Canon 35L and add a 135L to complete my line.


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Jul 07, 2010 05:15 |  #20

I don't use the 50mm FL very much so I'd happily skip that one. Primes for me are way better than zooms.


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Jul 07, 2010 05:30 |  #21

Keep the zoom, then add a few primes. The 35 f2 and 85 f1.8 won't break the bank too bad.


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Jul 07, 2010 06:06 |  #22

imo, the zoom will come in handy, and 50mm and 85mm are pretty close. Had the Canon 50mm 1.4 and wasn't satisfied with the sharpness wide open (Sigma did better) perhaps:

Tamrom 28-75mm f/2.8 <- Sharp wide open. It's a 2.8, value for money lens
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Jul 07, 2010 06:11 |  #23

Id go 35mm 2.0 / 60mm 2.8 macro / 100mm 2.0. But your choices are fine as well. I'd get the primes.




  
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Jul 07, 2010 06:11 |  #24

See, I LOVE primes but could not be without a zoom.

I would honestly get a good zoom first (17-55, 24-70, 24-105) then build up a prime collection. This way when you need it, you have a solid zoom to fall back on for most anything. Primes are awesome, and my collection keeps growing, but I personally need a zoom to round off everything.


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Jul 07, 2010 07:20 |  #25

As mentioned already, depends what you shoot. I shoot mostly events and concerts and there is no way I could capture the variety of images and framing with 3 primes in the bag, mainly because I would be spending more time switching lenses than shooting. I shot the Montreal Jazz Festival with 3 lenses. Tamron 28-75, 70-200 F4IS, 300 F4 IS.

If you notice, 2 out of the 3 are F4 lenses and, contrary to another post, they are fast enough and often you need the DOF. For more static/controlled shooting I do use primes or when shooting in dark closets ;-)a

PS: I saw no primes being used at the MJF. Not a one. Whether Nikon or Canon, the pros were shooting 70-200's and 24-70's. I don't think I have ever seen a prime being used at any concert/event.


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Jul 07, 2010 07:31 as a reply to  @ Todd Lambert's post |  #26

I would keep the 24-105 and add some primes:
or 35 F2.0 & 85 F1.8
or 24 F2.8 & 50 F1.4 & 100 F2.0


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Jul 07, 2010 07:56 |  #27

I would start slow and buy just one prime, and keep the zoom. Choose the prime at the focal length that you use the most -- which may well be different than others here. Get used to the new prime, see what you like about it and what you don't, which again may be different from other people's opinion. Ask yourself the question do you gravitate to the prime, or do you prefer the flexibility of the zoom. As you can tell, there are a variety of responses from forum members on this question. No right or wrong answer, just go with the tools that allow you to take the pictures that you want to take.

That's what I did, and I ended up going with an all prime line up. But obviously others have gone the other direction. My first prime was the 85 1.8 -- not a perfect lense but a very good price/value ratio.


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Jul 07, 2010 08:12 |  #28

Keep the 24-105 & buy one prime you mention to start. If you go all out and buy those three primes, you may still find the bokeh less that what you were hoping for. Until you hit fast L lenses, the bokeh will suffer.
Another alternative is to go the Sigma 30 or 50 route. The bokeh of these two match just about any L, and the price is more doable at the start.


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Jul 07, 2010 08:15 |  #29

First, I would like to build my eye for photography and so I thought that this might be a great way doing so. I also enjoy having the bokeh being smooth and the 4f on the 24-105 does not give me that much of a bokeh that looks pleasing.

And that was what I was expecting you might say.
How about a Sigma 30 1.4 and Canon 85 1.8 ? Skip the 50 for now.


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Jul 07, 2010 08:24 |  #30

There is vignetting on the Sigma 30 1.4 lens for my 5D Mark II unless I narrow down the aperture.
I am going to go to B&H today and play with some lenses before deciding though.

The Canon 35 2 didn't fare too well either. I might be leaning towards the 85 1.8 or the Sigma 50 1.4 though it got bad reviews for focusing. Perhaps I should keep my zoom as a secondary arsenal (an expensive one) and go on from there. Any other suggestions?




  
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