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Which one is better?

 
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Jul 07, 2010 16:42 |  #1

This is the un-cropped Version. (out of camera)

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It shows more of the natural habitat.

The crop
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Shows more of the bird, not as much habitat, but still enough?

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Jul 07, 2010 17:32 |  #2

2nd one :cool:


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Jul 07, 2010 17:34 |  #3

Agreed, the cropped. It isolates the bird more :)


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Jul 07, 2010 17:43 |  #4

what about an horizontal crop?


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Jul 07, 2010 20:09 as a reply to  @ ckckevin's post |  #5

The oof twig in the foreground is distracting as is the green spur in the background.

You could settle with #2 or, if it was my image, I'd take #1 and clone out those two elements, crop the bottom slightly, and render the twig on the right *edit * as oof.



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Jul 07, 2010 20:55 |  #6

I like #1 better; in #1, I feel like I am with the bird, looking up/calling at the tree branch- I feel like I can get lost in the picture and make it into a story.

in the second one, I feel like I am looking at a bird, and my imagination doesn't take me any further.




  
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Jul 07, 2010 22:54 |  #7

I prefer #2 - I would rather see the bird...the bird is your subject not its habitat (another bare twig really doesn't contribute much as expanding on its "habitat")
I would clone out the OOF green leaf on the right.




  
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Jul 07, 2010 23:18 |  #8

Definitely the second one.


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Jul 08, 2010 00:02 |  #9

i think the crop on the second one is too tight, i kind of expected some more room to the birds left since its looking that way. first one definitly feels more natural, but needs some cropping.


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Jul 08, 2010 00:43 as a reply to  @ telephoto500's post |  #10

Thank you all. I appreciate every ones replies.

I like #1 better; in #1, I feel like I am with the bird, looking up/calling at the tree branch- I feel like I can get lost in the picture and make it into a story.

in the second one, I feel like I am looking at a bird, and my imagination doesn't take me any further.

Yes, my thoughts exactly.

(another bare twig really doesn't contribute much as expanding on its "habitat")

Good point, but does it add, or take away from the composition as a whole? Mailny from the above point.

Its pretty much the first crop or the second I tried many different crops. But they ruined the composition. Rule of thirds, leading lines etc. That second stick is ackwardly positioned, so that it looks weird, part way out. So either I keep most of it or get rid of it. Cloning is prohibited in the contest rules, so thats not an option.

As a side point I think I over-saturated #2


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Jul 08, 2010 09:26 |  #11

"Cloning is prohibited in the contest rules, so thats not an option."

Oh My!
If that is the case, I would go with #1 but only from a composition point of view. I agree, you have cropped it to the extent that you can without eliminating shapes of interest/balance. At least the left branch takes your eye off the green leafy thing.
Let us know how you make out ....the judges will no doubt have some other angle on it regardless.




  
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Jul 08, 2010 10:31 |  #12

Crimzon wrote in post #10497052 (external link)
Cloning is prohibited in the contest rules, so thats not an option.

Assuming there are no regulations to blatant pasting, you can add big black dot(s) over things you don't want in the picture (as in censored x-rated materials) :lol:



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Jul 08, 2010 10:51 |  #13

cheungupdt wrote in post #10495171 (external link)
what about an horizontal crop?

Yeah, I agree. Maybe a horizontal crop using the 3rds rule?


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Jul 08, 2010 12:16 as a reply to  @ Scottdog129's post |  #14

2nd for me, only not so tight of a crop as mentioned.horizontal would give you way too much of the twig that is OOF.


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Jul 08, 2010 12:21 |  #15

#1 is better.


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