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5D Mark II and 24-70 or 24-105 ?

 
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Jul 06, 2010 14:00 |  #16

I miss my 24-105L on my 5DmkII. Not saying that I don't really love my 24-70L but as others have said, I'd keep the 24-105L and add a fast prime :)


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Jul 06, 2010 14:32 |  #17

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I think this is the plan. Trying to decide between Sigma 50mm f/1.4 or Canon 85mm f/1.2L :) . I know these are far apart, but I'll be adding a 70-200mm f/2.8 IS (Mark I or II) to the collection as well. So I'm trying to decide between the following if keeping the 24-105mm:

1) Option 1 is - adding Sigma 50mm f/1.4 + Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 IS Mark II
2) Option 2 is - adding Canon 85mm f/1.2L (either Mark I or Mark II) + Canon 135mm f/2L or 70-200mm f/2.8 non-IS down the road

I haven't used the Sigma but the Canon 85L is a dream lens. For me, it is a specialized lens and doesn't get a ton of use.

Personally, I would go with Option 1. The 70-200 Mark II is fantastic.

Of course so is the 135... :)


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Jul 06, 2010 16:19 |  #18
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Fodowsky wrote in post #10487520 (external link)
I haven't used the Sigma but the Canon 85L is a dream lens. For me, it is a specialized lens and doesn't get a ton of use.

Personally, I would go with Option 1. The 70-200 Mark II is fantastic.

Of course so is the 135... :)


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Why do you call it specialized lens? Due to slow AF and shallow DoF ? Just curious, as I've heard that many users say it's a must have on 5Dx bodies.


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Jul 06, 2010 17:54 as a reply to  @ aboss3's post |  #19

aboss3 wrote in post #10486599 (external link)
I think this is the plan. Trying to decide between Sigma 50mm f/1.4 or Canon 85mm f/1.2L :) . I know these are far apart, but I'll be adding a 70-200mm f/2.8 IS (Mark I or II) to the collection as well. So I'm trying to decide between the following if keeping the 24-105mm:

1) Option 1 is - adding Sigma 50mm f/1.4 + Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 IS Mark II
2) Option 2 is - adding Canon 85mm f/1.2L (either Mark I or Mark II) + Canon 135mm f/2L or 70-200mm f/2.8 non-IS down the road

I'm in the same boat: have the 24-105, going to buy a fast prime to fill the low light role. I've shot with the Sigma 50 and it rules. That and the 24-105 would be the perfect light weight duo.

The 85L is a miracle lens, simply mind bending results. Shoot in the dark, sharp wide open at 1.2, razor color. Cons: minimum focusing distance is annoying at times, focus a little slow but manageable, heavy. Not sure it's worth the money over the Sigma 50 1.4 though if you are going simply for low light capability and versatility.

These are my past set ups:

24-70 + 70-200 2.8 IS + 85 1.2------ Entirely too heavy as a walk around kit, but if you have the time and patience to lug these hunks around, you have the ultimate set up.

35L + 85L + 135L------- switching lenses constantly is a huge pain, not worth the effort if you ask me. Yes, you have great low light capability and super sharp results and that "pop" factor you get from primes, but when the shot counts or you are on the go and need versatility, I'd rather not be fumbling lenses.


I'd go 24-105, 70-200 f/2.8 IS, and Sigma 50mm f/1.4.



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Jul 06, 2010 18:03 |  #20
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Thanks for your advise. I really like the depth of field (or lack of it) that 85mm L produces. Just amazing shots that I haven't seen reproduced with anything else. The 50m should be equal to my former 30mm Sigma on 1.6x crop, so I'm assuming I'll get a little shallower depth of field with 50mm due to full-frame.
Another question is: should I go with 70-200 Mark I vs Mark II. Everybody who's gotten mark II version is raving about results, but I don't see a much better IQ to justify $600 price difference.
But from what I've seen above, looks like the 24-105mm is a keeper. Time to get a decent telephoto and fast prime. As far as 135mm f/2L, I love this lens, and it should be equal to 85mm on my former crop. I usually shot ballroom dance competitions with that, and really liked it. Decisions...decisions.​....decisions.....


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Jul 06, 2010 18:09 |  #21

24-105L is a good traveling and general purpose lens, it's neither too wide or long. But to build a kit with three lens setup I'd go 17-40, 70-200 2.8 IS MK2 and a fast prime like the 35L, 50L, or 85L depends on your FL preference for low light stuff.


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Jul 07, 2010 19:28 |  #22

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Why do you call it specialized lens? Due to slow AF and shallow DoF ? Just curious, as I've heard that many users say it's a must have on 5Dx bodies.

For me, the slower AF is not ideal for a general purpose lens. It is magical on the 5D bodies and the Mark III. It was also great on the 7D. It's just not used as often as some of my other lenses.


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Jul 07, 2010 23:08 |  #23
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Well, I finally made my decision, and placed an order for 85mm f/1.2 mark ii. I think it'll solve my low light problem, and give me some additional creativity. In the future, I'm planning on adding 70-200 f/4IS, but for now will just rent one if needed.
Thanks for all of your suggestions and comments!


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Jul 07, 2010 23:17 |  #24

You made a good choice...85L+ 5D2=magic!


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Jul 08, 2010 00:00 |  #25
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Thanks! We shall see. I've heard that there's no better lens for 5D2 than 85L. Curious to find out for myself :)
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Jul 08, 2010 00:18 |  #26

I have been frequenting this thread the past couple of days because I am facing the same dilemma. I have the 16-35II and the 70-200 II and I am wanting to fill the gap. I have been trying to figure out which of the two lenses in the title of this thread would be the best choice...but now I am also leaning towards the 85L. I like the artistic and creative possibilities of this lens.


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I'll post my review as soon as I get it. Right now is the time to buy stuff, as I'm sure it'll go back up to $2,000 after July 10th.


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brettski wrote in post #10496965 (external link)
I have been frequenting this thread the past couple of days because I am facing the same dilemma. I have the 16-35II and the 70-200 II and I am wanting to fill the gap. I have been trying to figure out which of the two lenses in the title of this thread would be the best choice...but now I am also leaning towards the 85L. I like the artistic and creative possibilities of this lens.

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Jul 08, 2010 04:22 |  #29

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Just personal preference, but I love the 24-105 on my 5D II.

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Jul 08, 2010 06:23 as a reply to  @ marivil's post |  #30

This debate will rage on for years and years. I hope the next iteration of the 24-70 trumps the image quality of its Nikon counterpart at which point, I will jump in. Or maybe the next iteration of the 24-105 will truly be sharp corner to corner at all apertures at which point I will jump in. But ... that will be years and years away.


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