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Jun 23, 2010 13:51 |  #1

First of all let me say that I don't have much experience with the video on my 7D at all and never even planned on using it when I bought the thing. However, one of my friends has asked me to record some videos of him playing guitar for his website. We recorded a few using the built-in mic and obviously the quality is not the greatest as far as sound goes. Last night we tried using a mixer and plugging it into the "mic" input on the 7D. It was just an acoustic guitar and a mic plugged into the mixer. Even with the levels on the mixer turned down to almost 0 there was a lot of sound distortion when playing the video. We never were able to get it sounding decent. It seemed like the mixer puts out more power than what the input on the 7D can handle. I'm pretty sure his equipment is not the problem, it is all very high quality components.

What would be the best way to record a simple video with decent sound straight into the camera? Thanks for any advice you can give. I'm still in the learning process with the still picture part of my 7D so this is waaaaay out of my league.


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Jun 24, 2010 12:04 |  #2

yourdoinitwrong wrote in post #10413792 (external link)
First of all let me say that I don't have much experience with the video on my 7D at all and never even planned on using it when I bought the thing. However, one of my friends has asked me to record some videos of him playing guitar for his website. We recorded a few using the built-in mic and obviously the quality is not the greatest as far as sound goes. Last night we tried using a mixer and plugging it into the "mic" input on the 7D. It was just an acoustic guitar and a mic plugged into the mixer. Even with the levels on the mixer turned down to almost 0 there was a lot of sound distortion when playing the video. We never were able to get it sounding decent. It seemed like the mixer puts out more power than what the input on the 7D can handle. I'm pretty sure his equipment is not the problem, it is all very high quality components.

What would be the best way to record a simple video with decent sound straight into the camera? Thanks for any advice you can give. I'm still in the learning process with the still picture part of my 7D so this is waaaaay out of my league.

AV out lead into 3.5mm into a laptop and then sync in post job done.

well thats what i do anyway,you cant control the input volume on the camera which is what you really need.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=c5wg7iTcMTo (external link)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=O4O7gyDyE5M (external link)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=pLSQf2R9TQk (external link)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=uVGCAF_5YSk (external link)


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Jun 24, 2010 12:14 |  #3

a) Wait for a (not even rumored about yet...) new firmware that offer manual gain control

or

b) Spend $99... --> http://www.samsontech.​com …cfm?prodID=2053​&brandID=4 (external link)




  
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Jun 24, 2010 13:27 |  #4

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AV out lead into 3.5mm into a laptop and then sync in post job done.

well thats what i do anyway,you cant control the input volume on the camera which is what you really need.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=c5wg7iTcMTo (external link)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=O4O7gyDyE5M (external link)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=pLSQf2R9TQk (external link)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=uVGCAF_5YSk (external link)

Those videos are what I'm trying to do! Sorry for the questions that are about to follow but they will give you an idea of how little I know about this. Are the guitar and mic going into a mixer and then into the laptop? Then you record the video and sync that up with the audio on the computer? If that is how it goes then what program do you use to record the audio and them sync them? I have a MacBook Pro and an iMac with Final Cut Express. Thanks for taking the time to answer!


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Jun 24, 2010 14:41 |  #5

yourdoinitwrong wrote in post #10419950 (external link)
Those videos are what I'm trying to do! Sorry for the questions that are about to follow but they will give you an idea of how little I know about this. Are the guitar and mic going into a mixer and then into the laptop? Then you record the video and sync that up with the audio on the computer? If that is how it goes then what program do you use to record the audio and them sync them? I have a MacBook Pro and an iMac with Final Cut Express. Thanks for taking the time to answer!

Yeah you can see the set up on the left on the second video.

Everything plugged into the soundboard/mixer thing then stereo AV lead - 3.5mm jack into the laptop using stepvoice recorder (you can have a free 30day trail cheap but it works!) and IDT HD Audio to control the input sound coming in which i think came with my dell laptop.

Video is converted from the mov raw to avi using mp4cam2avi then saved as a wmv 720p video in sony vegas pro then both audio and video are synced in windows movie maker( i know i know but it works) then saved as a 720p video.


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Jun 24, 2010 15:54 as a reply to  @ AMD87's post |  #6

Awesome. Thank you so much for letting me know. Now that I know how to record everything it's going to be an adventure seeing if I can figure out the software part. I freakin' sound like I'm 80 when I say that but I'm only 36! :confused:


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Jul 08, 2010 03:22 |  #7

I would think that Garage Band (on your Macbook Pro) would suffice for decent and free audio recording.

Then just take the recorded audio into Final Cut and sync with video.




  
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Jul 08, 2010 09:52 |  #8

PishPosh wrote in post #10497526 (external link)
I would think that Garage Band (on your Macbook Pro) would suffice for decent and free audio recording.

Then just take the recorded audio into Final Cut and sync with video.

This is pretty much what we ended up doing. Used Garage band to record the audio and then put the audio and video together in iMovie. Surprisingly we were able to get the two synced in iMovie which I didn't think was going to work out. I have Final Cut Express but it's on my iMac and not my MacBook Pro so we gave iMovie a shot and it worked.


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Jul 08, 2010 10:24 |  #9

yourdoinitwrong wrote in post #10498724 (external link)
This is pretty much what we ended up doing. Used Garage band to record the audio and then put the audio and video together in iMovie. Surprisingly we were able to get the two synced in iMovie which I didn't think was going to work out. I have Final Cut Express but it's on my iMac and not my MacBook Pro so we gave iMovie a shot and it worked.

So where's the video then ;)


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Jul 08, 2010 10:39 |  #10

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So where's the video then ;)

I KNEW that was coming! :lol: Keep in mind I'm not a pro at this and these were our first attempts. WB is way off in "Wherever You Will Go" but we hadn't even planned on doing that one and it was 4 hours into messing around and I completely forgot to set my custom WB. This was more of a "see if we can make it work" than anything.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=LEQhrw2HMXE (external link)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=vtrmEtolYM8 (external link)


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Jul 08, 2010 11:16 |  #11

yourdoinitwrong wrote in post #10498973 (external link)
I KNEW that was coming! :lol: Keep in mind I'm not a pro at this and these were our first attempts. WB is way off in "Wherever You Will Go" but we hadn't even planned on doing that one and it was 4 hours into messing around and I completely forgot to set my custom WB. This was more of a "see if we can make it work" than anything.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=LEQhrw2HMXE (external link)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=vtrmEtolYM8 (external link)

They seem to have came out well,one question what happened to the audio on the first one,seems to go abit strange at 56 secs? maybe the input levels?


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They seem to have came out well,one question what happened to the audio on the first one,seems to go abit strange at 56 secs? maybe the input levels?

I noticed that too. It must have been something associated with the uploading because on the .mov file it is just fine. We couldn't figure it out either. Once the recording started we never touched the levels on either the soundboard or the MacBook. We did have Garage Band set to Auto Level, think that may have something to do with it?


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Jul 08, 2010 11:36 |  #13

yourdoinitwrong wrote in post #10499271 (external link)
I noticed that too. It must have been something associated with the uploading because on the .mov file it is just fine. We couldn't figure it out either. Once the recording started we never touched the levels on either the soundboard or the MacBook. We did have Garage Band set to Auto Level, think that may have something to do with it?

Sounds like it could be,he went for a high note but it was too close to the top of the limit so it took a few seconds to lower the input volume?

Usually i set the input volume pretty low as i can always raise the volume in post and it will still sound clear.


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Jul 08, 2010 12:09 |  #14

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Sounds like it could be,he went for a high note but it was too close to the top of the limit so it took a few seconds to lower the input volume?

Usually i set the input volume pretty low as i can always raise the volume in post and it will still sound clear.

Good call. I'll give that a shot next time and see if that takes care of it.


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Jul 10, 2010 17:45 |  #15

i like these videos




  
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