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Jul 10, 2010 14:45 |  #31

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I would like to see the 1DsIV (or 1DsV) do 8fps+ in reduced resolution mode. Then everyone who wants a "do it all camera" (everything from studio to sports) can fork out the cash for a 1Ds and we won't be having this argument.

People who want a "do it all camera" are usually noobs who couldn´t afford it anyway. And I don´t know about any pro who shoots everything from studio to sports.


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Jul 10, 2010 15:51 |  #32

Bigger sensor means more light, more megapixels at the same density compared to smaller sensor. As soon as data throughput improves and such a camera is possible, I don't see much point for a small sensor big camera. Nikon D4 is expected around july, august 2011 with 18MP at FF. What you think happens with Canon, what is the reaction, seriously? Staying at 16MP crop?

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The question is if someone needs more than 16 megapixels.
Yes D3s is the best camera on the market when it comes to high ISO performance. However how many times does a sports photographer need ISO 100k and how many times does he need 400 mm instead of 300 mm?




  
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Jul 11, 2010 00:28 as a reply to  @ ihv's post |  #33

a jack of all trades master of none doesn't sound like a great idea, at least not on their specialized flagship models




  
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Jul 11, 2010 03:26 |  #34

MaxExposure wrote in post #10514232 (external link)
a jack of all trades master of none doesn't sound like a great idea, at least not on their specialized flagship models

I would add that this is so at least for now.

I highly believe that after the Nikon D4, when at some point comes out the Canon 1D MK5, many photographers do have a camera which covers 100% of their needs. My assumptions being that the 1D MK5 is something like 21MP FF.

That being said, many professionals use only D700 for example, or 5D MK1 I know of, i.e. not at all big cameras. The upgrade is based on business needs, when price is justified. Also, for many the 1D size is too heavy (remember, this is not about the photographers look but about the tool and results and conveniency and price etc.). Latest and the greatest is only for rich amateurs and the minority of top pros (there are plenty of professionals still using the 1D MK3 or even older models).




  
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Jul 11, 2010 12:37 |  #35

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Bigger sensor means more light, more megapixels at the same density compared to smaller sensor. As soon as data throughput improves and such a camera is possible, I don't see much point for a small sensor big camera. Nikon D4 is expected around july, august 2011 with 18MP at FF. What you think happens with Canon, what is the reaction, seriously? Staying at 16MP crop?

Canon offers two cameras, so yes, they can stay at 16MP crop in 1D while putting 32MP FF into 1Ds. In fact, Nikon did the same with D3 - one 24MP D3X and one 12MP D3S.
And crop is good because it makes your view angle narrower. Yes, it can be done in Photoshop, however journalists will be glad if they can avoid the extra work, especially if the photos need to be published asap.


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Jul 11, 2010 15:37 |  #36

MMX wrote in post #10516267 (external link)
Canon offers two cameras, so yes, they can stay at 16MP crop in 1D while putting 32MP FF into 1Ds. In fact, Nikon did the same with D3 - one 24MP D3X and one 12MP D3S.
And crop is good because it makes your view angle narrower. Yes, it can be done in Photoshop, however journalists will be glad if they can avoid the extra work, especially if the photos need to be published asap.

You cannot escape the fact that FF is at least 1 stop better due to sensor size. Which means better IQ in the end.

Try to think hard - will Nikon try to make a 1.3x crop camera if it has such unique properties? Now go to back my post where I quoted CW, the Canon's top level technical adviser about the preferences of the crop.




  
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Jul 12, 2010 20:21 |  #37

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Try to think hard - will Nikon try to make a 1.3x crop camera if it has such unique properties?

Try to think hard why most of the lenses you see on major sports events are white ;)


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Aug 21, 2010 16:27 as a reply to  @ MMX's post |  #38

canon rumors mentioned something about a hybrid/low mp FF camera with video, maybe this dream 1D5 could be made into a 1Dv mark 1? any takers?




  
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Aug 21, 2010 21:54 |  #39

I'd stick with the 1.3 crop factor. It adds a bit of focal length to telephoto lenses, while still allowing wide angles to still be fairly wide. (i.e. 16mm becomes roughly 21mm, still usable)

I like the idea of dual CF slots. 12 FPS sounds nice. Of course the built in grip has to stay. As far as the other features go, they seem pretty cool.


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Aug 21, 2010 22:44 |  #40

MaxExposure wrote in post #10763159 (external link)
canon rumors mentioned something about a hybrid/low mp FF camera with video, maybe this dream 1D5 could be made into a 1Dv mark 1? any takers?

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Aug 22, 2010 06:06 as a reply to  @ post 10461670 |  #41

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Aug 22, 2010 06:10 |  #42

If I may add, it should support SDXC cards (up to 2TB storage) just like in T2i /550D.


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Aug 22, 2010 06:11 |  #43

I've seen 1Ds mk3's being used by pro 'togs at motor racing events, so these expensive beasts are pretty flexible.


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Aug 22, 2010 07:21 |  #44

MMX wrote in post #10524426 (external link)
Try to think hard why most of the lenses you see on major sports events are white ;)

For one the white lenses are a bit cheaper than nikkors :p But I would have to disagree however on the crop factor now. D3s has built in 1.2 crop mode @ 8mp (which lots of sports users still use the 1d2). So if the D4 does come out with a 16mp sensor not only do you have the full frame option but a 12mp 1.2 crop as well. Also the reliable focus from the nikon and ability to focus in low light at high iso is making people think. Im starting to slowly see those white lenses disappearing at sports events... just sayin.


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Aug 22, 2010 07:38 |  #45

Are Canon still playing catch-up with AF with their latest cameras?

It does seem that Canon are making things more complicated for the user by offering a multitude of different settings. I'm not sure whether thats actually an improvement and not a backward step.

It strikes me that if the AF just worked, then there would be no need for these user adjustables. How does Nikon deal with this in their top end stuff?


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