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Jul 18, 2010 23:03 |  #1

I am headed out to Yellowstone National Park in August. I am most interested in capturing some nice landscapes so I am looking to purchase a wide angle zoom lens. However I am also very interested in shooting weddings for which I also need a wide angle zoom for my Canon 50D. I own the Canon 24-70 2.8L but this lens is not wide enough on the 50D for weddings or landscapes. I have been looking at a Tamron 17-50 mm 2.8 which has good reviews. This lens give the equivalent of 27 mm with the 1.6 crop factor on the 50D. Is this wide enough to get some good landscapes at Yellowstone or do I really need an ultra wide angle starting at 10 or 11mm on the wide end. I've read a lot of websites and opinion is mixed on how wide is wide enough. The draw back of the ultra wide zoom besides cost is obviously not enough reach on the long end which will not very useful to me for weddings. Help!




  
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Jul 18, 2010 23:11 |  #2

I'd definitely look into getting a lens that you'll use for weddings as well. that means all non rectilinear are out because of distortion.

I have always wanted wider when in our national parks... I think the tamron or the canon 16-35 or 17-40 wide angles are good choices for both vacation and wedding photography.


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Jul 18, 2010 23:55 |  #3

The Canon 17-55 f/2.8 IS on my then 40D did a nice job for weddings.
The IS really does come in handy.
For the UWA I went with the Canon 10-22 which I am very happy with. The Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 gets great reviews also.


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Jul 19, 2010 01:40 |  #4

saw some wedding photos from a guy using 11-16mm for some pretty creative exposures. My buddy starts off every wedding with a 24L on one shoulder and 50L on the other (well until he switched to nikon last month) so 24 = 16 on crop :)




  
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Jul 19, 2010 04:59 |  #5

Keep the 24-70 and buy a ultrawide or sell the 24-70 and get a 17-55 f2.8 IS.


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Jul 19, 2010 05:46 |  #6

You could also go full-frame with a 5D classic and benefit from the increase in ISO performance, and wider wides. Currently your 24mm end is more like 38mm, but with FF it actually will be 24mm.


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Jul 19, 2010 09:59 |  #7

The Tamron 17-50 have my vote.


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Jul 19, 2010 10:55 |  #8

Upgrade to a 5D classic unless you need the FPS. I love my 24-70 as my multipurpose lens. It's fast and wide with great image quality. Tube full of primes.


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Jul 19, 2010 11:04 |  #9

Another vote for the 5D Classic (24-70 on the 5D classic is great).

I'm also hearing good things about the Sigma 30mm 1.4 - designed for crop bodies, it's actually wider than your 24-70. I know it sounds like an odd choice for your requirements but I'm considering this lens for my 7D as an all-round prime (if there is such a thing - kind of an oxymoron idea that, an all round prime). But - it's wide enough for landscapes and also seems not too shabby for portraits (although you'd imagine it to be too wide). Take a look at these shots - they show how versatile this lens can be:

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Jul 19, 2010 11:04 |  #10

Go full frame.


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Jul 19, 2010 11:07 |  #11

loydall wrote in post #10564041 (external link)
I'm also hearing good things about the Sigma 30mm 1.4 - designed for crop bodies, it's actually wider than your 24-70.

This is not possible.




  
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Jul 19, 2010 11:11 |  #12

Why is not possible?

EF Lens on a crop body = 24 * 1.6 = 38.4

30mm lens designed for crop body = 30mm

30mm is wider than 38mm

OK - The lens itself doesn't change - the 24-70 will always be a wider lens but on a crop body the 24-70 does get cropped, giving you an equivalent of a 38.4mm lens but the lens designed for the crop doesn't get cropped so you essentially see the image (give or take) that is produced by the 30mm.

So - try the 30mm and 24-70 on the same crop body and you'll get a wider field of view image from the 30mm.


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Jul 19, 2010 11:43 |  #13

Whatever wide angle you get, be sure and take plenty of images with a standard and tele lens also. I remember the first wide angle I every owned...a 28mm on a film camera so it was really 28mm. I went on a trip to the Colorado Rockies and boy did I use that 28mm lens and boy was I disappointed when I got my pictures back. You could see every mountain in Colorado in every photo so a little wide angle really does go a long way when doing scenics.




  
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Jul 19, 2010 11:52 |  #14

yellowstone is already a very big place, so in that case, 27mm for landscapes might work, or you can at least get good shots. But personally I landscape with a UWA zoom in the 11-16 or 10-20mm range. The 11-16mm is fast enough to work for weddings as well, so for you that'd be my recomendation. But it's VERY wide, so I'm not sure how much you'd actually use it there.

Maybe rent something REALLY wide for the trip but buy something kinda wide for weddings?


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Jul 19, 2010 11:53 |  #15

loydall wrote in post #10564103 (external link)
Why is not possible?

EF Lens on a crop body = 24 * 1.6 = 38.4

30mm lens designed for crop body = 30mm

30mm is wider than 38mm

OK - The lens itself doesn't change - the 24-70 will always be a wider lens but on a crop body the 24-70 does get cropped, giving you an equivalent of a 38.4mm lens but the lens designed for the crop doesn't get cropped so you essentially see the image (give or take) that is produced by the 30mm.

So - try the 30mm and 24-70 on the same crop body and you'll get a wider field of view image from the 30mm.

It doesn't matter if the lens is designed for crop or not. The crop factor still affect.

sigma 30mm f/1.4 on a crop body is actually 30*1.6=48mm FF AoV

24mm of 24-70L on a crop body is actually 24*1.6=38.4mm FF AoV

so the 24-70L is wider than sig 30mm


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