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is the Gary Fong or Sto fen diffuser suitable for wedding shot ?

 
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Aug 06, 2010 23:52 |  #1

is the Gary Fong or Sto fen diffuser suitable for wedding shot ?


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Aug 06, 2010 23:57 |  #2

Five of likely hundreds of threads on the Fong devices.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=745428

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=884726

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=875099

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=870215

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=864854

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Aug 06, 2010 23:58 |  #3

I have the Gary Fong diffuser and did not really this bulky addition...then came across this one http://www.litegenius.​com/ (external link) and use it all the time to shoot events and such.


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Aug 07, 2010 00:10 |  #4

Denis Seguin wrote in post #10676503 (external link)
I have the Gary Fong diffuser and did not really this bulky addition...then came across this one http://www.litegenius.​com/ (external link) and use it all the time to shoot events and such.

cool product. Is there any review of this bounce card ?


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Aug 07, 2010 01:13 |  #5

its a waste


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Aug 07, 2010 07:02 |  #6

why can't you just learn to use your flash without buying crutches like these?


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Aug 07, 2010 07:24 |  #7

I use my flash. I use it with umbrellas. I use it bare. I use it with a softbox and I use it with DIY diffusers. I have no desire to get rid of any of the "crutches".




  
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Aug 07, 2010 07:43 |  #8

Denis Seguin wrote in post #10676503 (external link)
I have the Gary Fong diffuser and did not really this bulky addition...then came across this one http://www.litegenius.​com/ (external link) and use it all the time to shoot events and such.

LMAO. Those cost little in bucks and even less in effort to make yourself. If that dude is selling a lot of those at that price, he is one smart bastage. :lol: :rolleyes:


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Aug 07, 2010 08:58 as a reply to  @ cdifoto's post |  #9

I bought two of those Sto Fen "crutches" for my 430 and 580 even before the flash units had been shipped out to me. I had the Vivitar 283 for my Minolta SRT 101 kit and I acquired the bounce kit 'crutches" for it as well and that was over 25 years ago. I saw no reason to go out "crippled" when very useful "crutches" were available to modify the light sources. Oh yeah I used the "crutches" on a wedding I shot for a friend when we were in the military and the images came out excellently and evenly lit with no harsh shadows.


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Aug 07, 2010 09:13 |  #10

Crutches have a use, but crutches also can be detrimental in certain circumstances.
If you need them and are on level ground they work; going uphill or on the deck of a sailboat, they serve only to get in the way and help you to fall.

Stoffens have a use, but Stoffens also can be detrimental in certain circumstances.
If you are in a normal height ceiling home (8' high, white) they work. But when there is no ceiling (outside!) they only serve to scatter light in many directions AWAY from the subject, wasting light and depleting your batteries much faster (full power blasts all the time).

One can 'soften' the light simply by aiming a normal speedlight at the ceiling. The Stoffen provides a small forward element of light useful for providing catchlights in the eyes of the subjects, but you can do the same with a white reflector card to the rear of the upward pointing ceiling bounce flash.

That Litegenius link shows a product which provides a forward element of light for catchlights. It has a questionable amount of ceiling bounce, however, as the upper part of the Litegenius seems to intercept all upward light to deflect it forward. If that is the case, its softening effect is limited to the size of the Litegenius, which diminishes the softening with distance.


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Aug 07, 2010 11:12 |  #11

Crutches is the wrong word in this case actually - a more correct word would be "redundant"

They are totally useless and just throwing money away. Why not just go to the casino instead?

There are two reasons why you would use these devices:
1. You want very soft light, all indirect with no direct flash
2. You want very soft light, mostly indirect but with a direct forward fill flash component

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- 1, just use a bare flash and bounce with the tilt/swivel feature
- 2, just tie a business card or something to the back of the flash head


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Aug 07, 2010 11:19 as a reply to  @ smorter's post |  #12

I have seen other photographers use sto fen for wedding shots.


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Aug 07, 2010 12:25 |  #13

I've seen other photographers not use them for wedding shots

...so looks like we're at an impasse :)


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Aug 07, 2010 12:26 |  #14

smorter wrote in post #10678293 (external link)
I've seen other photographers not use them for wedding shots

...so looks like we're at an impasse :)

well I have seen alot more photographers use it more than you. Therefore we are not at an impasse !


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Aug 07, 2010 12:50 |  #15

You said the Fong word

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