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Why do people bag the 24-70 L?

 
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Aug 12, 2010 01:50 |  #46

It is a great lens. I sold mine only because I so rarely use it and I find myself going to the primes more and more. Here are the “problems”:

1)Bad copies - there are definitely out there and you can understand why people are upset about it. It isn’t cheap. The internet doesn’t help either. An upset owner will make sure his/her voice is heard across multiple forums and sometimes multiple threads one same forum.. the bad press effect gets multiplied.

2)User error - It’s big, heavy lens and it lacks IS. IMO you cannot apply the 1/focal length rule on this lens. I rarely get sharp images when the shutter speed is around 1/f. Maybe I don’t have steady hands but I get best results when shooting much higher shutter speed. It is definitely a lens the photographer needs to adapt to, not the other way around. DOF can also be quite shallow when shooting wide open at the long end so you really have to be careful with your focus. Minimise movement when you focus and re-compose. (if you use center AF point only).

IMO it is the most versatile lens that produces consistently great IQ across the zoom and aperture range. I can’t say the same about the other zooms I have owned.




  
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Aug 12, 2010 01:56 |  #47

fang wrote in post #10706216 (external link)
2)User error - It’s big, heavy lens and it lacks IS. IMO you cannot apply the 1/focal length rule on this lens. I rarely get sharp images when the shutter speed is around 1/f. Maybe I don’t have steady hands but I get best results when shooting much higher shutter speed. It is definitely a lens the photographer needs to adapt to, not the other way around. DOF can also be quite shallow when shooting wide open at the long end so you really have to be careful with your focus. Minimise movement when you focus and re-compose. (if you use center AF point only).

Are you shooting on a crop? Keep in mind on crop cameras the rule is 1/Fx1.6


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Aug 12, 2010 02:53 |  #48

fang wrote in post #10706216 (external link)
It is a great lens. I sold mine only because I so rarely use it and I find myself going to the primes more and more. Here are the “problems”:

1)Bad copies - there are definitely out there and you can understand why people are upset about it. It isn’t cheap. The internet doesn’t help either. An upset owner will make sure his/her voice is heard across multiple forums and sometimes multiple threads one same forum.. the bad press effect gets multiplied.

2)User error - It’s big, heavy lens and it lacks IS. IMO you cannot apply the 1/focal length rule on this lens. I rarely get sharp images when the shutter speed is around 1/f. Maybe I don’t have steady hands but I get best results when shooting much higher shutter speed. It is definitely a lens the photographer needs to adapt to, not the other way around. DOF can also be quite shallow when shooting wide open at the long end so you really have to be careful with your focus. Minimise movement when you focus and re-compose. (if you use center AF point only).

IMO it is the most versatile lens that produces consistently great IQ across the zoom and aperture range. I can’t say the same about the other zooms I have owned.

I'm fully agree



  
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Aug 12, 2010 03:48 |  #49

This thread is a good read since I've been shopping for it too. Thanks for all the input guys


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Aug 12, 2010 03:56 |  #50

i only dont like the reverse zoom barrel, thats all... ;)


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Aug 12, 2010 04:04 |  #51

the 24-70 made me get rid of my Canon 50 1.4 and Sigma 30 1.4

Funny. Sigma 30/1.4 made me get rid of 24-70/2.8. For good.




  
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Aug 12, 2010 07:56 |  #52

martin2day wrote in post #10706553 (external link)
Funny. Sigma 30/1.4 made me get rid of 24-70/2.8. For good.

I hear ya! I keep both around, but the 30 certainly holds its own against the L!




  
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Aug 12, 2010 07:57 |  #53

engrmariano wrote in post #10706534 (external link)
i only dont like the reverse zoom barrel, thats all... ;)

That's actually one of the nicest "features" of the lens! It makes it so the hood can be as effective at 24mm as it is at 70mm.

The 24-105 hood is optimized for 24mm and isn't nearly deep enough at 105mm.




  
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Aug 12, 2010 08:08 |  #54

People bag the 24-70L because they either:
1. can't achieve good shots with it
2. can achieve better shots with other lenses using features like fast apertures
3. Want it with IS
4. can't afford it
5. have no life


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Aug 12, 2010 08:18 |  #55

smorter wrote in post #10707214 (external link)
People bag the 24-70L because they either:
1. can't achieve good shots with it
2. can achieve better shots with other lenses using features like fast apertures
3. Want it with IS
4. can't afford it
5. have no life

+1

6. Few people who happen to receive a bad copy and as you know that happens with any lens out there.


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Aug 12, 2010 08:22 as a reply to  @ fang's post |  #56

I don't bag it, but I'm pretty quick to point out that I've got L everything except my Sigma 15mm fisheye and Tamron 28-75 f/2.8. Both these lenses optically outperformed all other similar options in my own real-world experience.

Was the 24-70L faster than the Tam? A little. Built better? Sure. Does it have USM and a non-spinning focus ring? Yeah. But the Tam delivered better/sharper results in almost every circumstance.

That's my own personal experience, yours is probably different.




  
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Aug 12, 2010 08:25 |  #57

The 24-70mm F2.8L is my mose used lens, except during soccer seaons. I love it on my 7D.


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Aug 12, 2010 08:37 as a reply to  @ Ainoko's post |  #58

Ainoko wrote:
Are you shooting on a crop? Keep in mind on crop cameras the rule is 1/Fx1.6

Yup i'm aware of that. I used it on a 40d and now 5d2. Even on a 5d i try to stay faster than 1/fx1.5




  
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Aug 12, 2010 08:54 |  #59

love the lens, rarely take it off my camera.


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Aug 12, 2010 09:02 |  #60

mikekelley wrote in post #10703967 (external link)
Jack of all trades, master of none.

For me it was:

not wide enough
not long enough
too heavy to want to take anywhere
not fast enough to make up for it's other shortcomings
and i am not a sharpness stickler, but i got much better results with my other lenses wide open.

So I have to ask... what's the lens that does all that?


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