I just borrowed a 1D4 for a week....

Gel wrote in post #10709078
I did consider the 3DS but it's low light performance sucks and all it has better than the 5D2 is the autofocus system.

you must be joking. the low light ISO performance on the D3s is amazing! Pro body, amazing AF system, 12 mp sensor, what more could you want?

A 21mp sensor instead? I heard low light ISO performace sucked?

One thing that does puzzle me though is the size of the RAW files.

My 5D2's are all 21mb, the 1D4's are 19-22mb each, yet it's 15mp as opposed to the 5D2's 21mp?

Gel wrote in post #10709078
Very sharp though but I'm finding it hard to fit the model in the frame (In a hotel room) so need the wider frame.

What lens?

50mm, 85mm

Hotel room is 5 metres by 6 metres, model is on a four poster bed.

Don't like going below 50mm, next stop for me is the 35L and it's a bit wide.

Gel wrote in post #10710835
A 21mp sensor instead? I heard low light ISO performace sucked?

One thing that does puzzle me though is the size of the RAW files.

My 5D2's are all 21mb, the 1D4's are 19-22mb each, yet it's 15mp as opposed to the 5D2's 21mp?

Really? Here's pretty much no detail in the shot and it's 27MP's (on the 5D2). And you do understand the MP's of a camera have little to do with the raw file size.......don't you? Not to mention it fully depends on the detail of the photo.

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Each one of the 1D4's AF points is 512KB of file size. Sounds about right rofl

JonK wrote in post #10710958
Each one of the 1D4's AF points is 512KB of file size. Sounds about right rofl

LMAO.

This thread gets stranger by the second....

JonK wrote in post #10707964
I've shot with a 1D4, wasn't $4500 worth of camera to me. High ISO performance was worse than a 5D2 and the focus was worse in low light than the 7D. Iunno.

good point jon and kind of where i was at after i tested the id4 as well. its got some great features but when it got down to it,,im happy with my 19 points on the 7d, the af systens of the 7d and 1d4 are both deadly accurate, just seems the 1d4 has a few more bells and whistles and obviously more focal points. I think image wise the 5dmkII is better in every aspect.

heres the thing for me. for the price of a 1d4,,you get a 5dmkII and a 7d. I have a 17-55 and a 10-22. they are just killer on a crop. 135L on a crop is 210 at f/2.0.

so with both cameras you get better results in my opinion. plus when you go to sell the dam thing, you wont get beat up as bad. 5d line up is holding its value very well. If the improve the 7d and come out with an upgrade,, you sell and its a 7-800.00 loss. whats an mk3 going for now...2100-2200.00---- thats a 2500.00 hit every 2-3 years v/s a 7-800.00 hit on a 7d.

as fast as they upgrade these cameras, you get killed financially on the 1d series. A lot of master photogs were griping and complaining about this very issue in vegas and at our conventions this year. theres a lot to consider now.

all in all,,its dam hard to beat the 5d series. I have the classic and now the 5dmk2--- awesome cameras and the 7d is the icing on the cake as far as im concerned. just dont see the advantage now of getting a 1 series camera. image quailty is just to close with the 7d and the 5dmkII is better in my opinion.

SeanH wrote in post #10710943
Really? Here's pretty much no detail in the shot and it's 27MP's (on the 5D2). And you do understand the MP's of a camera have little to do with the raw file size.......don't you? Not to mention it fully depends on the detail of the photo.

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ISO plays a big part in file size.

SeanH wrote in post #10710943
Really? Here's pretty much no detail in the shot and it's 27MP's (on the 5D2). And you do understand the MP's of a camera have little to do with the raw file size.......don't you? Not to mention it fully depends on the detail of the photo.

Nope, I had no idea of that

2 more days left.... how do you like the 1D IV so far?


-David

bump. was your hotel room shoot strobe assisted?

what aperture were you shooting at? f/8 or pretty wide?

wait, so a 7D AFs FASTER/BETTER in low light -vs- a 1Div?
and the 5Dii has cleaner high ISOs than a 1Div?

all news to me.

jacobsen1 wrote in post #10747259
wait, so a 7D AFs FASTER/BETTER in low light -vs- a 1Div?
and the 5Dii has cleaner high ISOs than a 1Div?

all news to me.

I have all 3 and that is not what im finding.

malla1962 wrote in post #10748507
I have all 3 and that is not what im finding.

i have the cheaper two of the three looking at that third one

any tips/advice before i hit the buy button?