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what lighting for glamour shots?

 
peter.pan
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May 20, 2010 05:13 |  #1

Hi, I have tried some glamour work with ambient light, but the photos taken with some proper flash setup look better IMO. So I have an ST-E2, and a 430EX, and I am about to get two 580EX's. Now which light modifiers should I use?

I was thinking of getting some gels, and more importantly double layer umbrellas so I could bounce the flash of them, or shoot threw it, does that sound like a good idea to anyone?


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May 20, 2010 11:28 |  #2

I'm really liking my Kacey Enterprises Beauty Reflector (aka beauty dish).

I'm currently in the process writing up my initial experience with it, but I feel it's working great.

I can send PM you links to a couple shots taken with the dish if you wish.


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May 20, 2010 11:34 |  #3

ocabj wrote in post #10215985 (external link)
I can send PM you links to a couple shots taken with the dish if you wish.

Oh, that would be nice to have a look at, thanks :)


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May 20, 2010 20:05 |  #4

PP-

If you are focused on studio style photography-studio strobe lights are easier, more flexible, and cheaper than 580EXs. There are several good low end lighting kits from Alien Bee and Calumet that are better choices for studio glamour photography. For the same price as a 580EXII you can get an AB400, medium softbox, and light stand.

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May 20, 2010 20:18 |  #5

sspellman wrote in post #10218462 (external link)
PP-

If you are focused on studio style photography-studio strobe lights are easier, more flexible, and cheaper than 580EXs. There are several good low end lighting kits from Alien Bee and Calumet that are better choices for studio glamour photography. For the same price as a 580EXII you can get an AB400, medium softbox, and light stand.

-Scott

I do agree with this point. I have an order for an Einstein still on backorder.

I thought about selling one of my 580s to fund another strobe.

But I still plan on keeping my pair of 580 EX II Speedlites specifically for the versatility of having HSS (thanks to PW TT1/TT5).

I sort of misread the last part of the OPs post. I thought he already had Speedlites. But given the fact that the OP does not have the 580s just yet, then I would also recommend the Alien Bee route.

Note that ABs are known to have color inconsistencies at lower power, so it's critical to get a strobe that will be used a 1/2 to full power for your situation. This means a 400 or 800 indoors for the most part. The AB800 should be able to work outdoors (as demonstrated in various threads on this forum), but the AB1600 is definitely an outdoor strobe and probably would be very limited for indoor use.


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May 21, 2010 02:44 |  #6

Thanks for trying to help me save a bit of money, but there is a good reason why I am choosing to go with speedlites. I do not live in one set location. I live in Europe, 3 countries as a matter of fact, and I travel between my homes a lot (sometimes a number of times a month, by plane which means baggage restrictions). This is why I prefer to have portable flashes that I am able to take with me everywhere I go, and just have a set of lightstands and umbrellas/softboxes in each city I live in.

I know it would be much easier to get proper powerful strobes, but it doesn't seem to be an option, as getting 3 sets of them, would definitely cost me more than 2 speedlites. So ... please help me getting good light modifiers for speedlites :)

By the way, 'ocabj', the beauty-dish you suggested seems go give great results, so I will definitely try and get one of these. Also I really liked your photos, I think I have seen them already in the photo posting glamour/nude section, but I am not yet allowed to comment there, so now I can say it, great job.


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May 21, 2010 09:05 |  #7

If you haven't already seen this site, check out http://speedliting.com (external link) by Syl Arena. Arena is wrote a Canon-centric Speedlite book that's going to be released later this year.


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Jun 01, 2010 03:48 |  #8

some interesting suggestions,the 'speedlighting' link ocabj provides is ueful,I would'nt mind having a look at the reflector dish link ocabj

Thanks A14


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Jun 01, 2010 08:27 |  #9

There's actually two active threads:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=878789 - Lighting forum
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=878084 - G&N forum


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Jun 02, 2010 18:27 |  #10

Elinchrom Quadra's perhaps light and portable but packs more power than speedlights.

I have shot glam stuff with 2 speedlights using 43" umbrellas but just indoors.
eg
http://www.flickr.com …in/set-72157605642995659/ (external link)
http://www.flickr.com …in/set-72157605642995659/ (external link)


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http://www.flickr.com/​photos/edwardhor/ (external link)
http://www.modelmayhem​.com/EdwardHor (external link)
http://www.twitter.com​/edwardhor (external link)
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Jul 30, 2010 14:59 |  #11

ed, great work man.... really cool.


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Aug 13, 2010 08:52 |  #12

got to echo what tohers have said about getting a basic studio strobe set - it really opens up so much potential when you see how much control you can take of the lighting so easily IMHO.


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Aug 16, 2010 16:18 |  #13

have you look at yn-460II ? been using them for 6 month work real nice




  
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Aug 16, 2010 16:25 |  #14

Get a big white umbrella for they key light (ideally one that does reflective and shoot-through) and a couple of small shoot through umbrellas and/or small grid softboxes to use as accent lights. Finally get a decent sized silver & white reflector to fill. With stands & umbrella brackets for the above and a few gels, you can easily shoot glamour and stay portable.




  
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